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Former CIA Agent Phillip Agee On the Wilson Affair (The Traitor And Murderer Opines)
Taxpayer Supported "Democracy Now!" ^ | October 2, 2003 | Phillip Agee (professional traitor)

Posted on 07/14/2005 9:26:08 AM PDT by Sam Hill

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For those of you who don't know--which includes all of the media--Agee was responsible for the murder of CIA Station Chief Robert Welch.

Agee and his band of patriots published Welch's name in their ultra leftwing rags, "Counterspy Magazine" --what eventually became the " Covert Action Information Bulletin/Covert Action Quarterly".

This outrageous act led to the passage of the "Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982" (aka, "The Agent Identities Protection Act") which was signed by Ronald Reagan into law in 1982.

Bear in mind that it was a "magazine" and "journalists" who outed Welch. It is that kind of exposure that the 1982 legislation was meant to prevent.

1 posted on 07/14/2005 9:26:10 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

Does it really matter? I believe Aldrich Aimes 'outed' Plame years ago in 1994 anyway...


2 posted on 07/14/2005 9:30:34 AM PDT by frogjerk
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AGEE: I'm talking about regimes now that tortured and disappeared people by the thousands.

Is this proper grammer from someone with an IQ? How do regimes DISAPPEARED people? Is that like thinking them into the corn field? What's he doing in Cuba, anyway?

3 posted on 07/14/2005 9:35:23 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
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To: Sam Hill
Rove laughed at reporters outside his home today when he was asked if he was going to quit his job. Bush seems quite content, too.
If you look at the entire Niger story, it points to espionage. It was all left wing - every actor in the whole trip. The left was interfering with U.S. national security.
4 posted on 07/14/2005 9:36:09 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: frogjerk

It matters because it shows how far the media has gone to forget the reason for this law. It was to prevent agents from being named in the NEWS, not in off the record background phone calls with reporters.

(And, for the record, I don't believe Rove did "out" Plame even to Cooper. He was just correcting the media lies as to who sent Plame's hubby to Iraq. It wasn't Cheney, but Plame herself.)

GHW Bush, who went to the CIA right after the Welch murder, was in fact the person who almost single-handedly pushed through this legislation.

Barbara Bush even named Agee as Welch's murderer--in one of her books. Agee tried to sue her for defamation, then dropped the suit. (Because it is true.)

The ultra left have had an ongoing jihad against this act (they call it the Anti-Agee Act) for years. So it is just too ironic for words that they are using it now to try to damage George W Bush.


5 posted on 07/14/2005 9:37:03 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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It appears that Rove, Novak and the administration can legally make the claim that no one "leaked" her name. The legal premise to the word "leak" of an undercover CIA agent applies only to one that has been stationed outside the US within the past 5 years. Plame, according to Wilson's book, was overseas until June '97 but even the mention of "Wilson's Wife" by Rove wasn't done until July '03, over 6 years later. One can not leak unless the premise is there for a leak and it's not in this case.
6 posted on 07/14/2005 9:37:29 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Sam Hill

Hadn't thought about this jerk for years.

And Welch isn't the only one whose death Agee and his cohorts are responsible for.


7 posted on 07/14/2005 9:37:31 AM PDT by Yanni.Znaio (This tagline is political. The FEC is trying to make me remove it.)
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To: Sam Hill

I've read Agee's book before.

And you're right. No matter what the bastard says, he did expose Robert Welch and is complicit in his death.

If I remember correctly, he did succeed in exposing other CIA agents as well.

Agee knows that Cuba is one of the few places where he can remain safe because of his treachery back in the 70's.


8 posted on 07/14/2005 9:38:38 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

"What's he doing in Cuba, anyway?"

He runs an agit-prop website from there. And he also runs a travel agency--to sneak liberals into Cuba agains the law.

He's that determined.

But to answer the larger question, he's in Cuba to avoid be brought up on murder and treason charges in the US. I just hope Castro dies in time for Agee to be brought to justice.


9 posted on 07/14/2005 9:40:33 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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White House burned Wilson's wife could be charged under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act

A person who helped draw up this law said Plame would have to be overseas or there within 5 years prior to her outing. Plame was neither.

This investigation is about something much bigger. The left wing demons are screaming louder than ever before. So is the left wing media. My guess is they're trying to scream over the top of what's about to happen, as if their noise could somehow save them.

10 posted on 07/14/2005 9:42:06 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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"PHILLIP AGEE: I have started a business here and online travel services at www.cubalinda.com."


Seems to be out of business as of now.

Shame. Wherever will the enemy dims go for their cuber travel services? Can-eh-duh?

11 posted on 07/14/2005 9:42:11 AM PDT by G.Mason
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Well, I actually went to the travel agency website.

Then I clicked on the "aboutcubalinda" link. This is what I gots:

The page cannot be found The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please try the following: If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly. Open the www.cubalinda.com home page, and then look for links to the information you want. Click the Back button to try another link. HTTP 404 - File not found Internet Information Services -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technical Information (for support personnel) More information: Microsoft Support

12 posted on 07/14/2005 9:42:54 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
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To: MplsSteve

"If I remember correctly, he did succeed in exposing other CIA agents as well."

Absolutely. Agee and his rag Covert Action Quarterly ran a column called "Naming Names" in which they listed anybody they even thought might be a CIA (or any kind of US intel) agent.

This went on for YEARS, up until the act was passed in 1982. It was extremely popular--especially with the David Corns, Noam Chomskys and Howard Deans of the world.

That is, the same people who are apoplectic about the "outing" of desk jockey Valerie Plame.


13 posted on 07/14/2005 9:43:10 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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What happened was, their operations were disrupted and that was the purpose of what we were doing. uhm, isn't that like, treason or something?
14 posted on 07/14/2005 9:45:40 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: concerned about politics

You're right of course. Nothing about what Rove is said to have done fits the legislation. And Plame was not a covert CIA agent in any sense of the meaning of the legislation.

Part of my point is that the only people who are even close to having committed a crime are the news organizations that named her. The legislation was aimed at Covert Action Quarterly (aka CounterSpy). That is, the Time Mag and Mathew Coopers of this world. Not the WH staff personnel talking off the record.

(And of course there is no way Rove would have been doing this to expose her and put her at risk, since she was NOT a covert agent.)


15 posted on 07/14/2005 9:47:46 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

The law in question has several provisos:
(1) that the CIA must have tried to keep the agent's identity a secret for the five years previous to his being named;
(2) that the person releasing the name must know that the agent is operating covertly;
(3) that the revealer's intent must be to damage the USA's spying capacity, and must have shown that intent through a history of similar acts.

None of these provisos were met, so there is no case whatsoever. IMHO, the dims are simply trying to get back at Rove for his derisive (but true) commentary on liberals' shameful behavior regarding 9-11.


16 posted on 07/14/2005 9:48:03 AM PDT by Marauder (From my cold, dead hands ...)
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"None of these provisos were met, so there is no case whatsoever. IMHO, the dims are simply trying to get back at Rove for his derisive (but true) commentary on liberals' shameful behavior regarding 9-11."

They don't need to worry about the facts, since they have a hammerlock on the media. (They are the media.)

Of course it is just another way to get back at Bush for winning the election. The media is war by another means. As is the court system.

This bogus story also serves to keep attention away from the London bombings. After all, none other than John Le Kerry (D-France) assured us that the threat of terrorism has been exaggerated by the Bush WH.

They want to keep this ball in the air until they get all their info from Larry Flynt on the possible Supreme Court nominees.


17 posted on 07/14/2005 9:53:25 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

Shouldn't this guy have been tried, convicted and executed for treason?


18 posted on 07/14/2005 9:59:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Yanni.Znaio

The Welch assassination was a tragic and rude introduction to the Revolutionary Organization 17 November, a previously unknown Marxist-Leninist group that takes its name from the date of a bloody student revolt in 1973. The terrorist band has since killed 21 other people, including diplomats, judges and businessmen. Astonishingly, there have been no arrests, few firm leads and scant response to multimillion-dollar reward offers.

19 posted on 07/14/2005 10:00:59 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Brilliant

"Shouldn't this guy have been tried, convicted and executed for treason?"

He hottailed it to Cuba. The land of social justice.


20 posted on 07/14/2005 10:01:42 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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