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Joe Wilson admits wife was not undercover when identified
Wolf Blitzer - CNN Transcripts ^ | 7/14/2005 | Macsmind

Posted on 07/14/2005 8:15:17 PM PDT by macsmind76

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To: macsmind76

This is a dying non-issue.


61 posted on 07/15/2005 6:38:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (naming hurricanes after men should be repealed...it's silly)
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To: Grampa Dave
The Dems are not only "grasping at straws," they're clutching at stuff that mushrooms grew out of instead of good clean straw!

In fact, one could sing: "As the farmer hauled another load away... You could tell by the smell it wasn't hay..."

If the MSM weren't such syncophants, this would just vanish from all the radars instantaneously!!!

62 posted on 07/15/2005 8:30:14 AM PDT by SierraWasp (What other nation could spear a comet in deep space on independence holiday? God Bless America!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
And I have every right to have the American public know who I am

I'm beginning to think that THAT is what this is all about; he fancies himself James Angelton.

63 posted on 07/15/2005 8:32:23 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: macsmind76

Doesn't matter to the Rats. They know how the game works. Make wild accusations, knowing the MSM will cooperate and give them time on the Nightly News, where the vast majority of Americans get their information. They'll just repeat the same things over and over, so that Joe Six-Pack will think, "That Karl Rove must be a bad guy if they are so upset about him."

Then when the truth comes out, it gets buried so that most won't even be paying attention when it does, but by then the damage is done.


64 posted on 07/15/2005 8:33:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Echo Talon

LOL.......well done!


65 posted on 07/15/2005 8:36:15 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: macsmind76

It's my understanding that the "law" is five years of non-covert status before an agent can be outed.


66 posted on 07/15/2005 8:37:16 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: Howlin

Just think its fair if the reporters want to ask some question why arent they questioning him like that? I swear our press is so lazy.


67 posted on 07/15/2005 8:40:33 AM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: SierraWasp

Before Rush/other conservative talk show hosts, Fox News, the internet and Free Republic, the MSM treated us like mushrooms.

They kept us in the dark, covered us with their bs and expected us to believe whatever they lied about.

Those days are over.


68 posted on 07/15/2005 8:41:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: IVote2
I wondered about that last night; I bet Matthews is furious with Wilson for dragging him into this just as the ship is sinking!

And of course, that is OUT OF CONTEXT from the liar Wilson.

In the days after the Novak column ran, a producer from ABC-Wilson will not say who-phoned him at home and said, "They're saying things about you at the White House so off-the-wall we can't even put them up." NBC's Andrea Mitchell called him that weekend, he says, and told him that sources at the White House were telling her, "The real story here is not the 16 words-the real story is Wilson and his wife." Next, Wilson got a call from a journalist whom he won't name-but who is widely thought to be Chris Matthews-who, according to Wilson, gushed, "I just got off the phone with Karl Rove. He says your wife is fair game. I gotta go." Click.

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but was SHE part of the story? How did he expect her not to be "fair game" since she's the one who suggested him for the trip?

69 posted on 07/15/2005 8:42:13 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: macsmind76
My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity

Rush just played this clip from Ambassador Wilson.

How pathetic. Then he refused to say when she stopped being a clandestine officer.

70 posted on 07/15/2005 9:45:37 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Grampa Dave
Yeah... I have Rush on in the other room and I see there's a live Rush Thread on here, so you're right as rain!

By the way... speaking of rain... turn the danged thermostat down outside, will ya??? (sweatty grin)

71 posted on 07/15/2005 9:47:36 AM PDT by SierraWasp (What other nation could spear a comet in deep space on independence holiday? God Bless America!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Rush has been gutting and deballing this pack of lies all week.

Here is some more info:


October 19, 2003
THE PLAME AFFAIR: HOW MUCH DAMAGE?....Time magazine keeps us up to date on the potential damage from the exposure of Valerie Plame:

Officials with two foreign governments told Time that their spy catchers are quietly checking on whether Plame had worked on their soil and, if so, what she had done there. Which means if one theme of the Administration leak scandal concerns political vengeance — did the White House reveal Plame's identity in order to punish Wilson for his public criticism of the case for war with Iraq? — another theme is about damage. What has been lost, and who has been compromised because of the leak of one spy's name? And who, if anyone, will pay for that disclosure?

And how secret was Plame's CIA role? Apparently she was an undercover NOC (non-official cover), but not a deep undercover NOC:

Fred Rustmann, a former CIA official who put in 24 years as a spymaster and was Plame's boss for a few years, says Plame worked under official cover in Europe in the early 1990s — say, as a U.S. embassy attache — before switching to nonofficial cover a few years later. Mostly Plame posed as a business analyst or a student in what Rustmann describes as a "nice European city." Plame was never a so-called deep-cover NOC, he said, meaning the agency did not create a complex cover story about her education, background, job, personal life and even hobbies and habits that would stand up to intense scrutiny by foreign governments.

....Though Plame's cover is now blown, it probably began to unravel years ago when Wilson first asked her out. Rustmann describes Plame as an "exceptional officer" but says her ability to remain under cover was jeopardized by her marriage in 1998 to the higher-profile American diplomat.


72 posted on 07/15/2005 9:48:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: angkor
"With a loudmouthed showboater like Joe Wilson as her spouse, it's virtually certain that every reporter and cabbie in DC knew Valerie Phlame was a letter-agency employee"

Except Robert Novak, Matt Cooper, Judy Miller, and Walter Pincus.

73 posted on 07/15/2005 9:51:54 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: randog
Memogate pales in comparison to this latest MSM/DNC debacle. Oh well, that's what happens when you hire amateurs like the Wilsons.

Wilson is in a big ego trip. He might take down a few people with him.

Speaking of ego trip, Chuckie Schumer was calling himself the "senior Senator from New York" yesterday, since he seems to realize that Senator Clinton is the de facto senior Senator.

74 posted on 07/15/2005 9:54:22 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Howlin
Wilson got a call from a journalist whom he won't name-but who is widely thought to be Chris Matthews-who, according to Wilson, gushed, "I just got off the phone with Karl Rove. He says your wife is fair game. I gotta go." Click.

And who called who??

My bet is that Chrissy was the one that called Rove

75 posted on 07/15/2005 10:02:19 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Grampa Dave
Though Plame's cover is now blown, it probably began to unravel years ago when Wilson first asked her out.

I really haven't followed the story closely, but IIRC, her so-called "cover" was blown in that "heavy make-out session" with her future spouse.

I've had numerous conversations (long ago) with individuals who had knowledge of CIA personnel and operations. There is NO WAY IN HELL they let anybody (including close friends) know they worked for the agency. When asked about where they worked, they used the title of some harmless, nondescript agency.

76 posted on 07/15/2005 10:28:41 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Night Hides Not

You are correct.


77 posted on 07/15/2005 10:55:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Howlin
Can you believe they are STILL trying to push this story? How many times must the MSM be hit in their collective noses before they say, 'This ain't workin!'

I think I'll watch TLC or something else today, I don't think I can stomach Tim Russert
78 posted on 07/17/2005 6:40:45 AM PDT by IVote2 ( God Bless our military men and women! Thank you for your service.)
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To: macsmind76
Wilson campaigning for John Kerry in January, 2003, long before his July 6, 2003 op ed !

source

79 posted on 07/17/2005 3:53:47 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: macsmind76
Unfortunately, the January, 2003 date appears to be a typo by the johnkerry.com DUmmies!

Look further down the page for the January, 2004 date for primary appearances.

source

80 posted on 07/17/2005 5:27:46 PM PDT by F-117A
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