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Source: Rove Got CIA Agent ID From Media [w/additional text re: senate shenanigans]
Associated Press ^ | 07/15/05 | John Solomon

Posted on 07/14/2005 9:32:15 PM PDT by blake6900

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To: Quick1
Where did the media get it from?

Probably from Wilson himself. For the most part, they're on the same team.

21 posted on 07/14/2005 10:02:35 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Howlin
Who is most likely Novak's source?

Miller?

22 posted on 07/14/2005 10:04:21 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: blake6900

Looks like this "scandal" is about to go the way of the Delay "scandal." Funny that's all but disappeared. But of course the correction of the record won't be blared from the headlines like the original smear was. The media will just move on to some other attack angle on Bush. Look for the headlines next week to resume the usual "nothing but negative" from Iraq. Everytime someone trips and falls in Iraq, it will be screamed from the headlines. And Bush will be to blame.

The media conspiracy in this country has reached its absolute maximum depths in terms of craveness and utter bias. It is not enough to describe the media as liberal or biased. It is utterly activist.


23 posted on 07/14/2005 10:04:29 PM PDT by MikeA
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To: Howlin
blake! LTNS.........I have missed you!

Yep! Back and ready for action! How ya been? Stirrin' the pot, I hope. This whole Rove/Plame/Wilson/CIA thing is hilarious. These dumb asses never learn. It's almost too easy bi!ch-slappin' 'em. But I never tire of hearing the slapping sound that comes with it!

24 posted on 07/14/2005 10:04:53 PM PDT by blake6900
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To: Bob

Measure me for my foil hat, but I've got a mental image of the Joe Wilsons and the Mandy Grunwalds sitting around the bridge table cooking this scheme up...


25 posted on 07/14/2005 10:06:11 PM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: Sturm Ruger

We really need to start calling it a "Rove-a-Dope".

Anything that increases their paranoia that he is demonically invincible.

I just want to know, if all the Media seemed to know this detail about his wife, and the administration didn't, who the MSM got the news from?


26 posted on 07/14/2005 10:06:21 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Howlin
Now I want to know who told Judith.

Valarie Plame? Mandy Grunwald(spel?)?

27 posted on 07/14/2005 10:06:52 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Howlin; blake6900

Isn't it also interesting how both this AP story as well as the NYT version omit that Senator Frist's response to Reid's amendment was one of his own proposing that any office holder who discloses classified FBI information on the Senate floor and uses it to denigrate the U.S. military should have HIS security clearence removed. It was nice to see the Republican Senators showing some actual backbone without having to have their emails and phone lines flooded first! Let's just hope they liked their taste of victory so much that they're willing to fight for the upcoming judicial nominee(s)!


28 posted on 07/14/2005 10:07:44 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Bob

yer not kiddin' ,"for the most part"!! The MSM hacks and other assorted news gatherers aren't journalists , they're PROPAGANDISTS , but we knew that [sorry,I just had to say it out loud after today's shenanigans w/UpChuck & Wilson]hey, sounds like a comedy team , Upchuck & Wilson


29 posted on 07/14/2005 10:08:35 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: blake6900; Howlin
Stirrin' the pot, I hope.

Here is the spoon she uses.

30 posted on 07/14/2005 10:08:46 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Sturm Ruger
Measure me for my foil hat, but I've got a mental image of the Joe Wilsons and the Mandy Grunwalds sitting around the bridge table cooking this scheme up...

Yeah...which might explain why it didn't work. LOL! God, these people really are "the gang that couldn't shoot straight"!

31 posted on 07/14/2005 10:09:02 PM PDT by blake6900
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To: blake6900

I heard Rush Limbaugh discussing the New York Times and Karl Rove today. He was tearing @ssholes left and right. One of the best Limbaugh programs ever ! He said that the cover up was by the NYT who asked own journalist to fall on her sword. The NYT is guilty, not Karl Rove!


32 posted on 07/14/2005 10:09:54 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: blake6900

This whole absurdity was wholly created & driven by the media and their counterparts in the DemoncRAT party & LIAR Wilson.


33 posted on 07/14/2005 10:10:01 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: hole_n_one

I am not sure, but he obviously had another one who told him before he spoke to Rove.

This is from Joe Wilson's book (remember he's a liar) but it gives some added information:

Chapter 17: A Strange Encounter with Robert Novak

by Ambassador Joseph Wilson

Late on Tuesday afternoon, July 8, six days before Robert Novak's article about Valerie and me, a friend showed up at my office with a strange and disturbing tale. He had been walking down Pennsylvania Avenue toward my office near the White House when he came upon Novak, who, my friend assumed, was en route to the George Washington University auditorium for the daily taping of CNN's Crossfire. He asked Novak if he could walk a block or two with him, as they were headed in the same direction; Novak acquiesced. Striking up a conversation, my friend, without revealing that he knew me, asked Novak about the uranium controversy. It was a minor problem, Novak replied, and opined that the administration should have dealt with it weeks before. My friend then asked Novak what he thought about me, and Novak answered: "Wilson's an asshole. The CIA sent him. His wife, Valerie, works for the CIA. She's a weapons of mass destruction specialist. She sent him." At that point, my friend and Novak went their separate ways. My friend headed straight for my office a couple of blocks away.

Once he related this unsettling story to me, I asked him to immediately write down the details of the conversation and afterwards ushered him out of my office. Next, I contacted the head of the news division at CNN, Eason Jordan, Novak's titular boss, whom I had known for a number of years. It took several calls, but I finally tracked him down on his cell phone. I related to him the details of my friend's encounter with Novak and pointed out that whatever my wife might or might not be, it was the height of irresponsibility for Novak to share such information with an absolute stranger on a Washington street. I asked him to speak to Novak for me, but he demurred— he said he did not know him very well—and suggested that I speak to Novak myself. I arranged for him to have Novak call me and hung up.

Novak called the next morning, but I was out, and then so was he. We did not connect until the following day, July 10. He listened quietly as I repeated to him my friend's account of their conversation. I told him I couldn't imagine what had possessed him to blurt out to a complete stranger what he had thought he knew about my wife.

Novak apologized, and then asked if I would confirm what he had heard from a CIA source: that my wife worked at the Agency. I told him that I didn't answer questions about my wife. I told him that my story was not about my wife or even about me; it was about sixteen words in the State of the Union address.


(If you think you can stomach the rest of it, here's the URL: http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=58668 )


34 posted on 07/14/2005 10:10:11 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Sturm Ruger
Mandy Grunwalds

And Valerie Plame. Girls like to talk when they get together.

Next comes Judith Miller, more girl talk over lunch.

35 posted on 07/14/2005 10:10:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Soul Seeker

I liiiike it....

"Rove-a-dope: A half-baked scheme worthy of Wyle E. Coyote, cooked up by crazed moonbats and their media running dog lackeys to discredit Republicans who foil their agenda. Usually blows up in their faces like a cheap Acme cigar."


36 posted on 07/14/2005 10:11:34 PM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: pbrown

Now wouldn't that be wonderful.....if after all this, it was Valerie herself who outted herself............ROFLMAO.


37 posted on 07/14/2005 10:11:52 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: blake6900

This story gets better and better. Okay, I'll bite: how did Novak find out Plame's identity? Obviously he didn't get it from Rove. And I think he has said he didn't get it from anyone else in the Bush Admistration. Meanwhile, Judith Miller refuses to testify about what she knows. Hmm...

A birdie tells me that Novak's ultimate source is either Joe Wilson (through intermediaries) or Mandy Grunweld (Matt Cooper's wife and Democratic Party hack). Now wouldn't that be sweet?


38 posted on 07/14/2005 10:16:01 PM PDT by kesg
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To: hole_n_one
Who is most likely Novak's source?

Miller?

And leaving aside intermediaries (other NYT reporters), who was her source? Wilson? a Democratic hack? Matt Cooper is married to one: Mandy Grunweld.

39 posted on 07/14/2005 10:17:47 PM PDT by kesg
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

That was hilarious.

It's been a great day, all in all!


40 posted on 07/14/2005 10:18:51 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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