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Time to Pull Out. And Not Just From Iraq.
NYT ^ | 7/15/05 | John Deutch

Posted on 07/15/2005 6:07:27 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

AMERICAN foreign policy should be guided by two general principles: the first is advancing our security and political interests; the second is encouraging prosperity and responsive government for all people. It may be that with our encouragement and example, many countries will choose to adopt democracy and a market economy, presumably adapted to their own culture. Of course, others will follow a very different road for some time, perhaps indefinitely, as ethnic differences, poverty and historical and religious traditions affect and constrain choices.

America embarks on an especially perilous course, however, when it actively attempts to establish a government based on our values in another part of the world. It is one matter to adopt a foreign policy that encourages democratic values; it is quite another to believe it just or practical to achieve such results on the ground with military forces. This is true whether we are acting alone, as is largely the case in Iraq, or as part of an international coalition.

It seems that many in the Bush administration believed that an invasion to topple Saddam Hussein would result in a near spontaneous conversion of Iraq, and with luck much of the Middle East, to democracy. But the notion of intervening in foreign countries to build a society of our preference is not just a Republican or conservative failing. The corresponding Democratic or liberal failing is the view that America has a duty to intervene in foreign countries that egregiously violate human rights and a responsibility to oppose and, where possible, remove totalitarian heads of state. This Democratic rhetoric quickly moves from "peacekeeping" in a country torn by strife to "peacemaking" and to "nation-building."...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clintonistas; cutandrun; deutch; handwringers; news
ANOTHER NEWS PASS-THRU
1 posted on 07/15/2005 6:07:28 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Good thing this guy wasn't around in 1942 when the Marines were trying to kick the Japanese out of the Solomon Islands!


2 posted on 07/15/2005 6:12:06 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I can't tell the difference between the front page of the NYT and the front page of DU anymore.


3 posted on 07/15/2005 6:12:31 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

One thing about it, the Slimes does not have to worry about terrorist blowing up their fricking place where all the liars hand out and publish their bs.


4 posted on 07/15/2005 6:12:59 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
America embarks on an especially perilous course, however, when it actively attempts to establish a government based on our values in another part of the world.
It is one matter to adopt a foreign policy that encourages democratic values; it is quite another to believe it just or practical to achieve such results on the ground with military forces.
This is true whether we are acting alone, as is largely the case in Iraq, or as part of an international coalition

You know guys, the author has a point:

Military action didn't end slavery in America, it sure didn't work in Germany, Japan, Panama, Grenada, or South Korea, and it certainly played no role in stopping the Soviet Union.

Oh, wait a minute...

5 posted on 07/15/2005 6:16:06 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
America embarks on an especially perilous course, however, when it actively attempts to establish a government based on our values in another part of the world.

Gee, when Clinton was in office, Nation Building seemed like such a cool thing ...

6 posted on 07/15/2005 6:16:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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"IMPROPER HANDLING OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION BY JOHN M. DEUTCH "

Official report for John "That's some good porn," Deutch, One time head of the CIA, when Al Queada was planning it's attacks.

http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/ig_deutch.html

7 posted on 07/15/2005 6:41:17 AM PDT by Leisler ("You're either with us, or against us." GWB. "Well punk( muslim ), what's going to be?" Dirty Harry)
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To: facedown
I can't tell the difference between the front page of the NYT and the front page of DU the Koran anymore.
8 posted on 07/15/2005 6:45:57 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (Sympathy For The Terrorists)
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To: bill1952

So obvious it hurts.


9 posted on 07/15/2005 6:53:44 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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