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Police: Coach Told Player to Injure Disabled Teammate, 8
FoxNews ^ | Friday, July 15, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/15/2005 1:30:21 PM PDT by sammycook

PITTSBURGH — A youth baseball coach paid one of his players to hurt an 8-year-old mentally disabled teammate so the boy wouldn't be able to play in a game, state police said Friday.

Mark R. Downs Jr. (search), 27, of Dunbar, offered one of his players $25 to hit the boy in the head with a baseball, police said. Witnesses told police Downs didn't want the boy to play in the T-ball game because of his disability.

The solicited player hit the boy in the head and in the groin with a baseball just before a game, and the disabled boy didn't play, police said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: coach; danelybastard; disabled; tball
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To: sammycook

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4728564/detail.html

The injured boy's mother was suspicious, so she approached the player who threw the ball and he told her about the coach's payment offer, Broadwater said.

Downs, 27, of Dunbar, was charged Friday with criminal solicitation to commit aggravated assault, corruption of minors and reckless endangerment. He is free on bond and faces a preliminary hearing on July 28.



Damn, parenting at it's best ...and worst.


41 posted on 07/15/2005 3:39:30 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich

I feel so bad for this kid. There is no need for this type of behavior at all. I think that this guy and I would have some words if he tried doing this to my son.


42 posted on 07/15/2005 4:03:40 PM PDT by sammycook
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To: bobo1
Win at any cost, truth and morality be damned.

Wonder what he'd say if someone pulled a knife and jammed it into his gut one game. I bet he'd like some fair play.

If you can't win based on skill and within the rules, then what's the thrill of "winning"? Unfortunately, "winning" has been defined wrong these days, and I see it very strongly in the business community--for many people, every rule can be bent and every dirty trick is fine as long as you're not caught.

43 posted on 07/15/2005 4:10:01 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: sammycook

They need to dig him a new home in hell


44 posted on 07/15/2005 4:11:36 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
What needs to happen is that the dads of the kids on the team need to be men, get together and beat...

I wonder how many of the dads would have chipped into the pot for this. There are more nuts out there than you might realize.

45 posted on 07/15/2005 4:13:43 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Sonny M

>>Not a fun job hurting someone, but it was part of my job description.<<

No it wasn't, as you clearly state you played dirty (i.e., against the rules).


46 posted on 07/15/2005 4:15:19 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: sammycook

How sure are we the kid didn't hit the other boy with the ball and then start blaiming the coach when he started to get in trouble for it ?

I'm reserving judgement here.

If he did it he should be flayed.


47 posted on 07/15/2005 4:47:17 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: sammycook

Total f-cking scumbag. Bring him to me.


48 posted on 07/15/2005 4:59:37 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Gunrunner2
No it wasn't, as you clearly state you played dirty (i.e., against the rules).

Both.

You can break the rules and play dirty, you can also play by the rules and still play dirty.

Which reminds me of something I told my team captain one year, "Just because I am allowed to, does it really mean I should?".

49 posted on 07/15/2005 6:37:23 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M
Playing dirty with the intent to hurt is the act of a coward. Young people have not the judgment to make that call and any coach that teaches such behavior, or tolerates it, is a coward. Once the concept of right and wrong and fair play and consequences are understood, then if the player still plays dirty that player is a cheat and a coward.
50 posted on 07/15/2005 7:57:27 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: sammycook
If this is true ... i'd like a few minutes with this punk ... t-ball ... a disabled kid ... ?

Absolutely loathesome and deserving of the appropriate punishment. If the kid's dad can't mete it out, I'd be glad to.

51 posted on 07/15/2005 9:31:10 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
I saw this,, incredible, the "coach" needs 10 years to contemplate his navel or sumthin', imo.

If this coach did this to my kid, he'd wish that was all he got when I got through with him.

52 posted on 07/15/2005 9:34:18 PM PDT by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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To: Sonny M

Post 50 was in context of your observation; >>I told my team captain one year, "Just because I am allowed to, does it really mean I should?".<<

Good question and demonstrates a concept of right and wrong.


53 posted on 07/16/2005 4:18:31 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: sammycook
JMHO...It seems this is one aspect of "Mainstreaming" people/society should be conscious of...kids, and (not immature) Adult coaches should realize...It is only a game.

The coaches and the kids want to win games.
To win games, every player/person must be teachable/coachable, sometimes players/coaches become "frustrated and srike-out" emotionally/physically.

If the kid couldn't play (worth a damn) and IF he was disrupting/disruptive (does the kid understand, the games' rules?) the training and coaching of the team, one could see why this "really stupid event" occurred...the parents should not be using the game as a cause for a lawsuit...flame away, if you must..JMO

54 posted on 07/16/2005 8:29:15 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

While at West Point, Eisenhower was sent into a football game specifically to hurt Jim Thorpe.


55 posted on 07/16/2005 10:32:19 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: skinkinthegrass
one could see why this "really stupid event" occurred...the parents should not be using the game as a cause for a lawsuit...

Well, it's still early, but I think I can safely say this gets the dumbest post of the year award.

There is absolutely, positively NO REASON to pay a kid to assault another kid. So no, I can't see "why this 'really stupid event' occurred".

And what lawsuit are you talking about?

56 posted on 07/17/2005 2:51:08 PM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: TomB
And what lawsuit are you talking about?

..just waiting for the other "shoe" to drop, symptomatic of the American Legal System....someone will file a lawsuit. :(

57 posted on 07/17/2005 4:10:25 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Of course. Well, with parents like this, I'm sure the kid was jusk ASKING to get taken out.

Do your knuckles drag a lot when you walk?

58 posted on 07/17/2005 4:45:16 PM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: TomB
Do your knuckles drag a lot when you walk?

Yes. ...and I have a continuous hairy eyebrows, too...any more "questions". :P

59 posted on 07/17/2005 6:06:21 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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