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To: nuconvert
It is time to ensure that Islamic sermons around the world teach Muslims to dismantle terrorist organizations like al-Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hezbullah, and any group that harbors, teaches, and trains the world's future Islamo-fascists.

That's nice, but how does one use Islam to take a stand against the radicals when Islam advocates violence in the name of it's god?

The Koran must be refuted to accomplish the task. I'm not holding my breath.

2 posted on 07/15/2005 5:55:18 PM PDT by stboz
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To: stboz

When all is said and done and the islamo-fascists are destroyed. The Muslim religion itself will also fade away.


5 posted on 07/15/2005 5:58:05 PM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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I completely agree. Nuconvert...I would have perhaps been taken in by this article 4 years ago. No longer.

How does the good doctor explain away islam's bloody 1400+ year history?

Do you really think that we buy this "hijack" a "peaceful" religion and "tiny handful of extremists" nonsense anymore?


7 posted on 07/15/2005 5:59:13 PM PDT by milford421
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A good point, and one at the heart of the matter.

Here are a bunch of suidical Jihdists claiming they are obeying the command of Allah to kill the infidels.

Here is a major religion without any centralized authority.

What is a good Muslim to do? Condemn wanton murder and perhaps
run afoul of Allah? Or speak out on a moral level and be sneared to death by other Muslims. Most major religions put a limit on their extreme elements.

It seems the Prophet left out an important piece of control. How to correct heresy within Islam.

We need more Muslims with conscience.


11 posted on 07/15/2005 6:07:37 PM PDT by plangent
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" The Koran must be refuted to accomplish the task. I'm not holding my breath."

Are you familiar with the process of abrogation? That is where various verses in the Qu'ran where supposedly struck out to be false, and replaced with another verse say some chapters later. This has been going on for some 1000 years
or so. Put it another way, if enough Islamic sects had top leaders (it depends on a particular sect as who is really recognized and the type titles they are given), that came together, they could officially abrogtae all the verses that deal with subjugation, killing infidels, etc.. Then all new Qu'rans that where translated (yet another version), would replace the old. Then of course the only really wide ones such as the Wahaabis who will go ballistic, will be exposed, as not wanting to act in the name of Islam to save the cult form extinction etc.. Plus then western nations could simply say, hey Sunnis' your welcome, hey Shiite your welcome, hey Sufi your welcome, hey Wahabi go to hell you cannot enter our countries and set up shop.
Could this happen. Probably is impossible, to many differences in the various sects to permit them a chance of sitting down and getting the job done. But their is a legitamate mechanism that could be used to erase verses from being read and used in the future.


15 posted on 07/15/2005 6:26:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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