Posted on 07/17/2005 5:58:36 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
boy, you post some interesting threads!
i was just reading ann coulter's book "treason" today, and was absolutely dumbfounded by fdr's and eleanor's remarks when confronted with the spies in their employ.
See also Ann Coulter's Slander.
Full Disclosure: I was the first to mention her, let someone else follow the rule.
PS : Doesn't the same logic go double today, with Putin's resurgent nationalism, and China's saber-rattling?
No cheers, unfortunately.
And I really, really meant Treason instead of Slander--it was just, umm, just the thought of all the juicy photos likely to follow that distracted me!
Honest!
The pertinent question is no longer whether Americans spied, but rather how highly educated, intelligent men and women failed to comprehend the true nature of Stalinist communism, and why they were willing to risk their lives and imperil the security of their families, neighbors and friends to commit crimes on behalf of a foreign power opposed to the basic tenets of modern society.
We see the same types of people today in our own government.
We see them in ANSWER, PETA and the whole alphabet of leftist/green NGOs across the country.
I don't think anything could have convinced the left any more than it already knew. Many of the leaders of the left were already involved in espionage. Those that weren't, for the most part, thought Soviet espionage was a good idea. Moynihan was a good man, but he had a naively rosy view of the intentions of his fellow travelers on the left.
yes.
and it's even worse.
radical feminism is based upon communist movements:
the frankfort school, herbert marcuse, louis althusser, jacques lacan, michel foucault, etc.
betty friedan was a card carrying member of the u.s.a. communist party. gloria steinem worked for the c.i.a. in the european propaganda department after the korean war.
althusser murdered his wife, but the feminists still love him.
university educated feminists control american newspapers and tv.
No one connected the dots. Russia’s spies thrived in the U.S. during World War II largely because the FBI and Army failed to grasp the nature of the threat.
Failed or were part of???
bookmark
The "left" is like an overwhelming tranquilizer. It numbs the senses and eliminates logical thought.
A MOST EXCELLENT book - power packed well documented info.
Do we forget the Chinese?
in ann coulter's "treason" president harry truman refused to believe the evidence that alger hiss was a communist spy.
amusing, actually not, that truman learned about the u.s. secret atomic bomb after joe stalin!
yes!
another good book, from which i derived the info above about gloria steinem. covers the whole post ww2 era:
10. The CHAIRMAN: JOHN J MCCLOY & THE MAKING OF THE AMERICAN ESTABLISHMENT
by Kai Bird (Hardcover - April 30, 1992)
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I have to tell you, the story of Joseph McCarthy has had a profound influence on my life.
All my life, I heard what a terrible man he was, the wrongs that he did to people, the red baiting, intimidation, etc. I heard it from the history books, magazine articles and television documentaries.
I bought it hook, line and sinker. Fact.
Then, I read Ann Coulter's book. I just could not believe what she said was true, so I started digging on my own. I read all the books on that era I could manage, and got through about 15 of them in the past couple of years. I even went so far as to obtain the transcripts from the actual McCarthy hearings, just so I could see what was actually said.
You know what? Ann Coulter's analysis of those hearings fits the transcripts much better than anything I have heard before or read in any book. Then, I read "Witness". The typewriter thing got me.
Then I read the books on the Venona project, and it does turn out that McCarthy was right all along, as was Whittaker Chambers.
I now view McCarthy as a patriot, whose reputation was smashed beyond recognition. He bought our country time, I believe that.
And you see the tactics of the Left back then repeated nearly verbatim now. It is chiling to see.
I think what will be most interesting is what we find out in another 40 or 50 years when papers from today are being released.
If they weren't "part of," orders came from the top.
Good post. My experience re: McCarthy is exactly the same as yours.
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