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CONSTITUTION PARTY NATIONAL COMMITTEE TO MEET IN COLUMBUS, OHIO
www.constitutionparty.com ^ | 7/18/05

Posted on 07/18/2005 12:45:17 PM PDT by IronChefSakai

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To: WhiteGuy

BAM!!! :-p


101 posted on 07/19/2005 5:47:31 PM PDT by IronChefSakai (Life, Liberty, and Limited Government!)
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To: sarasotarepublican

I regret to say that you're right. The Republicratic Party (& the MSM which does its bidding) will not allow other voices to be heard, & have made it difficult for those who could compete against it to get its word out & pose a threat to its rule..


102 posted on 07/19/2005 6:20:57 PM PDT by libertyman (It's time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!!!)
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To: WhiteGuy
I just do not agree with the premise that being a member of a particular "party" makes one candidate more worthwhile than another.

I respect your opinion on this matter. However, GWB is in the White House, today, because Ralph Nader received enough votes to take the election victory from Gore. In that election, it worked for Republicans. Ross Perot gave us the clinton slime machine for 8 years.

103 posted on 07/20/2005 8:34:25 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: IronChefSakai
So you would rather vote AGAINST someone than for someone?

At this time, I have no choice. By voting for any other party, I am giving the democrats my vote. GWB is in the White House because Raplh Nader took away the victory from Al Gore. That's a good thing. We all know what happened in 1992. We need to clean up both parties.

104 posted on 07/20/2005 8:48:59 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: sarasotarepublican
I have heard this argument before.

I would suggest that gwb is in the white house by virtue of receiving the most votes under our electoral college system.

I do not believe that our voting process is a zero-sum game. That there are a finite number of "votes" that are divided between the 2 majority parties.

I also do not blame perot for 8 years of clinton embarrassment. The competing parties simply did not put forth a candidate that was better in the eyes of the voting public.

Using the popular logic of this discussion, it could be argued that gwb won the 2000 election thanks primarily to Patrick Bucanan's strong showing in several counties in Florida..............
105 posted on 07/20/2005 9:15:49 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: WhiteGuy

How can anyone deny that Ralph Nader gave the 2000 election to GWB? Without Nader, Gore wins Flordia, thus, Gore becomes president.

I still believe that we need three parties. The Moderate, The Conservative, and the Liberal Parties. Both major parties contain a certain number of liberals, moderates and conservatives. Zell Miller is a perfect example. The problem with the Republican party is, that there are too many liberal and moderates. Oh well, just MHO.


106 posted on 07/21/2005 9:51:29 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: sarasotarepublican
How can anyone deny that Ralph Nader gave the 2000 election to GWB? Without Nader, Gore wins Florida, thus, Gore becomes president.

My problem with this logic is that there is an assumption that without Nader in the race, ALL of the votes he (nader)received would have gone to gore. There is no way to prove that assertion. Perhaps those voters stay home, perhaps they vote for bush, who knows?

Three parties? That's ok - I know that "political parties" are an institution and can be used for good in some cases.

I do however reject the notion that we are obligated to swear allegiance to a party and vote straight ticket because any candidate from the other party will be far worse!

I could be accused of being politically unrealistic or even politically stupid. I don't care. I have one vote, that vote represents me, it's the only voice I have in the direction of government and I don't OWE any party or candidate the vote.


You said - "The problem with the Republican party is, that there are too many liberal and moderates."

Ahhh, see, we're still friends. We agree on this issue 100%
107 posted on 07/21/2005 11:31:58 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: WhiteGuy
You said - "The problem with the Republican party is, that there are too many liberal and moderates." Ahhh, see, we're still friends. We agree on this issue

It's always educational to agree and disagree amongst friends. I understand what you are saying about party loyality. I guess I am a loyal team player. Both parties need the strength of all its members, in good times and in bad times. My wish is to get a large enough majority so we can begin to unseat the RINO'S.

108 posted on 07/21/2005 7:48:42 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: sarasotarepublican

I like your tagline too!


109 posted on 07/22/2005 5:30:00 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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