Wilson Didn't Complain About "The 16 Words" Until He Was Working On Kerry Campaign

Numerous | July 18, 2005 | Numerous

[Sam Hill]

Wilson didn't say boo about Bush's SOTU address or the famous "16 words about uranium" until after he was an advisor on the Kerry campaign.
 
It wasn't for lack of opportunity, since Wilson was on several news programs between the SOTU and when he began his jihad against Bush in June/July. Such as the program he did with Bill Moyers a month after the SOTU. 

 

In it he said nothing about Yellowcake or Bush's duplicity at all. As you know, Wilson as CERTAIN Saddam had WMDs and would use them against us. As this exchange shows.
 
NOW with Bill Moyers. Transcript. Bill Moyers Talks with Joseph C. Wilson, IV. 2.28.03 | PBS

 

"MOYERS: President Bush's recent speech to the American Enterprise Institute, he said, let me quote it to you. "The danger posed by Saddam Hussein and his weapons cannot be ignored or wished away." You agree with that?
 
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. I…
 
MOYERS: "The danger must be confronted." You agree with that? "We would hope that the Iraqi regime will meet the demands of the United Nations and disarm fully and peacefully. If it does not, we are prepared to disarm Iraq by force. Either way, this danger will be removed. The safety of the American people depends on ending this direct and growing threat." You agree with that?
 
WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. The President goes on to say in that speech as he did in the State of the Union Address is we will liberate Iraq from a brutal dictator. All of which is true. But the only thing Saddam Hussein hears in this speech or the State of the Union Address is, "He's coming to kill me. He doesn't care if I have weapons of mass destruction or not. His objective is to come and overthrow my regime and to kill me." And that then does not provide any incentive whatsoever to disarm."

 

http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_wilson.html

When did Wilson become a foreign policy advisor for John Kerry?

 

"(Kerry Advisor Rand) Beers Said Wilson Communicates With Campaign Advisers At Least Once A Week.''

-- Patrick Healy and Wayne Washington, "In Probe Of CIA Leak, Two Sides See Politics,'' The Boston Globe, 10/2/03

"Wilson ... Said He Has Long Been A Kerry Supporter And Has Contributed $2,000 To The Campaign This Year. He Said He Has Been Advising Kerry On Foreign Policy For About Five Months And Will Campaign For Kerry, Including A Trip To New Hampshire... 

-- David Tirrell-Wysocki, "Former Ambassador Wilson Endorses Kerry In Presidential Race,'' The Associated Press, 10/23/03"Wilson was beamed into New Hampshire via a conference call Thursday to make the endorsement official. He'll put in a personal appearance there next month. It had already been revealed that Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame, had contributed to the Kerry campaign.

 

Wilson also acknowledged that he has been advising Kerry on foreign policy for about five months."

 

-- From Boston Herald editorial, "Diplomat's 'outrage' finds political outlet," 10/25/03

 

 

Five months earlier is May 2003. It was right around then that the first leaks to the press from Wilson began to show up. Of course it could just be a coincidence.

 

May 6, 2003
The New York Times
Missing In Action: Truth
By Nicholas D. Kristof
       
June 12, 2003
CIA Did Not Share Doubt on Iraq Data
Bush Used Report Of Uranium Bid
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer

 

June 29, 2003
Independent
Ministers Knew War Papers Were Forged, Says Diplomat

By Andrew Buncombe in Washington and Raymond Whitaker in London

 

June 6, 2003
What I Didn't Find In Africa
New York Times Editorial
Joseph C. Wilson, IV

 

Note, too, the date of Wilson's first contribution to Kerry's campaign:

 

Wilson, Joseph C
Washington, DC 20007

 

JC Wilson International Ventures/Bu
KERRY, JOHN F (D)
President

 

JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC
$1,000
primary 05/23/03

Wilson posted this on the site John Kerry ran for him, "RestoreHonesty.com":

 

"I wasn't ready to keep quiet when this President misled the nation in his State of the Union Address..."

-- Joseph Wilson, A Letter from Joe Wilson on John Kerry

 

But it's clear he was. Or rather it is clear that Wilson only began to rewrite history once he was working for the Kerry campaign. Even if he was an unpaid advisor, he was surely hoping for a plum job in any Kerry administration.

 

This would explain why Wilson said nothing to Moyers about his doubts in their interview. It also explains why what Wilson now claims doesn't match what he reported back to the CIA, as the 9/11 Commission revealed. Wilson only made it up once he got on the Kerry team.

 

Please note that no one in the unbiased media have ever asked Wilson or Kerry about this coincidence of timing.

[Sam Hill]

I've posted some of this on threads, but people have emailed me asking that I give it its own thread.

[Sam Hill]

Thought you might enjoy this.

[msnimje]

Obviously he received a "Flip Flop" injection form Kerry's personal physician when he went to work in the campaign.

[Plutarch]

Great work. Your work would have more effect and exposure if you had all the links.

[Sam Hill]

Yep, sometime in May:

"In Mid-May [2003, Wilson] Began Talking To Kerry's Advisers About Helping The Campaign; He Made His First Donation May 23." -- Patrick Healy and Wayne Washington, "In Probe Of CIA Leak, Two Sides See Politics," The Boston Globe, 10/2/03

[Paladin2]

"....when he began his jihad against Bush... "

More like when he joined the 'Rat/MSM Jihad on Bush.

I still remember the muffler on the steps of Congress to explain how large the tax cuts were going to be, LOL. We should compile a list of all the mud Daschle and his followers have tried to get to stick to Bush.

[Sam Hill]

I couldn't get the links to show up. If anybody asks, I'll try to provide them.

[coloradan]

Curiouser and curiouser. I'm going to need (and might make) a timeline of all the connections, and lies. For example, that the spouse of one of the reporters was a long-time Clinton supporter.

[Enchante]

This is good stuff!!! Wilson is a pathetic fraud who must be exposed, no matter how hard the MSM tries to protect him!

[Plutarch]

An example of posting the links:

May 6, 2003
NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF (NYT)
Missing In Action: Truth

Maybe someone can help you with the HTML.

[Sam Hill]

Mrs. Mathew Cooper is also the daughter of the late Henry Grunwald, who was the managing editor of Time magazine.

He turned it from Luce conservatism to the liberal rag it is today.

Grunwald insisted on putting in Time it's first editorial ever in its fifty years. In that editorial, Grunwald called for Richard Nixon's impeachment or resignation.

The apple (Mandy) didn't fall far from the tree. She and Cooper (who is of course at Time--the Son-In-Law Also Rises) are trying to relive Henry's glory days.

[coloradan]

Please do. This is getting good. I want documentation for some members in my family who sometimes send me sKerry talking points.

[bray]

This whole thing looks orchestrated by Mr & Mrs Wilson and the DNC cabol. Any way we can find out who and how?

Pray for W and Our Troops

[Paladin2]

Start as far back in time as possible to get the "wedding shower in the WH with Hillary, etc.". This is clearly a VLW/Communist/Socialist/MSM/'RatC.

[festus]

Its long been my belief that the reason Judith Miller has decided to sit in jail is that the source was Wilson.

Though in the last week I've added the possibility it was Kerry or his campaign that leaked the identity of Plame during the '04 campaign to try and make an issue to attack Bush with.

Pure speculation though.

[Sam Hill]

I realize that. Some of the links showed up and some didn't. As for those articles, I thought most people would know of them. If not, I will do a short encapsulation:

May 6, 2003
The New York Times
Missing In Action: Truth
By Nicholas D. Kristof

Missing in Action: Truth
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0506-02.htm

I'm told by a person involved in the Niger caper that more than a year ago the vice president's office asked for an investigation of the uranium deal, so a former U.S. ambassador to Africa was dispatched to Niger. In February 2002, according to someone present at the meetings, that envoy reported to the C.I.A. and State Department that the information was unequivocally wrong and that the documents had been forged.

The envoy reported, for example, that a Niger minister whose signature was on one of the documents had in fact been out of office for more than a decade. In addition, the Niger mining program was structured so that the uranium diversion had been impossible. The envoy's debunking of the forgery was passed around the administration and seemed to be accepted -- except that President Bush and the State Department kept citing it anyway.

June 12, 2003
CIA Did Not Share Doubt on Iraq Data
Bush Used Report Of Uranium Bid
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer

CIA Did Not Share Doubt on Iraq Data (washingtonpost.com)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A46957-2003Jun11?language=printer

"Armed with information purportedly showing that Iraqi officials had been seeking to buy uranium in Niger one or two years earlier, the CIA in early February 2002 dispatched a retired U.S. ambassador to the country to investigate the claims, according to the senior U.S. officials and the former government official, who is familiar with the event. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity and on condition that the name of the former ambassador not be disclosed.

During his trip, the CIA's envoy spoke with the president of Niger and other Niger officials mentioned as being involved in the Iraqi effort, some of whose signatures purportedly appeared on the documents.

After returning to the United States, the envoy reported to the CIA that the uranium-purchase story was false, the sources said. Among the envoy's conclusions was that the documents may have been forged because the "dates were wrong and the names were wrong," the former U.S. government official said.

However, the CIA did not include details of the former ambassador's report and his identity as the source, which would have added to the credibility of his findings, in its intelligence reports that were shared with other government agencies. Instead, the CIA only said that Niger government officials had denied the attempted deal had taken place, a senior administration said.

June 29, 2003
Independent
Ministers Knew War Papers Were Forged, Says Diplomat

Ministers knew war papers were forged, says diplomat
http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/resources_files/Ministers_knew_war_papers_were_forged,_says_diplomat.htm

A high-ranking American official who investigated claims for the CIA that Iraq was seeking uranium to restart its nuclear programme accused Britain and the US yesterday of deliberately ignoring his findings to make the case for war against Saddam Hussein.

The retired US ambassador said it was all but impossible that British intelligence had not received his report - drawn up by the CIA - which revealed that documents, purporting to show a deal between Iraq and the West African state of Niger, were forgeries.

When he saw similar claims in Britain's dossier on Iraq last September, he even went as far as telling CIA officials that they needed to alert their British counterparts to his investigation. ...

...The former diplomat - who had served as an ambassador in Africa - had been approached by the CIA in February 2002 to carry out a "discreet" task: to investigate if it was possible that Iraq was buying uranium from Niger. He said the CIA had been asked to find out in a direct request from the office of the Vice-President, Dick Cheney.

During eight days in Niger, he discovered it was impossible for Iraq to have been buying the quantities of uranium alleged. "My report was very unequivocal," he said. He also learnt that the signatures of officials vital to any transaction were missing from the documents. On his return, he was debriefed by the CIA.

[savedbygrace]

Oh. My. Word.

This is spectacular. Well done, Sam.

[Past Your Eyes]

"In it he said nothing about Yellowcake or Bush's duplicity..." He didn't say anything about Bush's duplicity because he wasn't injected with his own duplicity hormone yet. Not only that, there wasn't any duplicity on Bush's part anyway until he invented it. Good job, Sam Hill.

[jw777]

Excellent! The hits just keep on coming.

[citizencon]

Vast left-wing conspiracy: downing of the POTUS by targeting the architect.

[Plutarch]

Would be more readable if you had the underlined link description, rather than the url. Check out how at the HTML Sandbox .

[Sam Hill]

This isn't my full-time job, you know. (JK)

[timestax]

bump

[Laverne]

Good Job Sam!!! Now if only we could get this info on FNC..it would at least be a start of exposing Wilson for the Kerry Kampaigner he really was. Certainly, we can't expect MSM to do this kind of research on their own; and if they did, you know they would spike it.

[Southack]

It's more than just what you listed. Wilson's wife, the so-called "Valerie Plame," was *also* making political donations during this timeframe...donating as "Valerie Wilson."

...Too bad those "intrepid," die-hard reporters couldn't dig this tidbit up, much less that Valerie lists herself as "retired"...Oh, and the date of Valerie's contribution is Bill and Hillary's anniversary...just as the date of Wilson's orginal hit-piece op-ed in the NY Times was President Bush's birthday.

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Contributor	Occupation	Date	Amount	Recipient
WILSON, JOSEPH C WASHINGTON,DC 20007	JC WILSON INTERNATIONAL VENTURES/BU	5/23/2003	$1,000	Kerry, John
WILSON, JOSEPH C WASHINGTON,DC 20007	JC WILSON INTERNATIONAL VENTURES/CE	9/4/2003	$1,000	Kerry, John
WILSON BILIK, MARY J WASHINGTON,DC 20007		6/11/2004	$500	Kerry, John
WILSON, VALERIE E WASHINGTON,DC 20007	N/A/RETIRED	10/11/2004	$372	America Coming Together
WILSON BILIK, MARY JANE WASHINGTON,DC 20007	SUTHERLAND ASBILL & BRENNAN LLP/LAW	10/13/2004	$250	DNC Services Corp
Wilson, Penelope Ms Washington,DC 20007	SELF	8/4/2004	$250	Kerry, John

[F-117A]

Bump!

[Congressman Billybob]

This is an excellent piece of work. You should send it to Powerline, Captain's Quarters, Instapundit, and a few others. Methinks they will eat this up.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "The Fry Cook Rule for the Supreme Court"

[Sam Hill]

I know. (And the Americans Coming Together donation is really a tip-off. Shows how far left they really are if they support that Soros/Clinton front.)

I just wanted to emphasize the timing of his donation to Kerry. I suspect the conversation went something like this:

W: "Honey, you know if Kerry is going to make me Secretary of State, I'd better donate something to his campaign PDQ."

P: "You're right, luvy. We probably should have done it even before you volunteered to be his SOS."

W: "I wanted to wait until it was in the bag. Why waste money? We've got Jags to buy."

P: "Good thinking, sweetie."

[HighWheeler]

Nice work, Sam

[Sam Hill]

I just realized I screwed up on this date:

June 6, 2003
What I Didn't Find In Africa
New York Times Editorial
Joseph C. Wilson, IV

It should be July 6, 2003--obviously.

[advance_copy]

Joe Wilson's lawyer just lied on MSBNC's Hardball saying that Wilson didn't have anything to do with the Kerry campaign until 2004. Your post gives a whole new meaning to the question, "What the Sam Hill is going on?"

[Miss Marple]

I think Tony Snow would like to see this.

[Sam Hill]

Here's one of the citations for Wilson's statement in October 2003 that he had been working with Kerry for five months:

Former ambassador Wilson endorses Kerry in presidential race

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence to exaggerate the threat from Iraq, endorsed Democrat John Kerry for president on Thursday.

		Democratic presidential hopeful U.S. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, right, greets firefighter Jason Roth in Davenport, Iowa.
		By Larry Fisher, Quad City Times

In a conference call with New Hampshire reporters, Wilson said he and Kerry have shared the experience of challenging their government — Wilson when he questioned the "rush to war" with Iraq, Kerry when he challenged America's role in Vietnam.

Speaking from Washington, Wilson said Kerry's actions, coming when he was a 23-year-old Vietnam War veteran, makes him stand out in the Democratic presidential field.

"John Kerry did the same thing after he came out of Vietnam, I did it at the age of 53 ... with a long and distinguished career behind me," Wilson said. "John Kerry did it at the very beginning of his career.

"I know how these sorts of things test one's mettle," he said. "To have stood up and said what he did, at the time that he did, in my judgment, sets him apart from the other candidates."

Wilson and the Bush administration have been at odds since he accused the White House of manipulating intelligence to exaggerate the threat from Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Afterward, the Justice Department began a criminal investigation to determine who in the administration leaked the identity of Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA operations officer.

Plame's identity was revealed in a July 14 column by syndicated columnist Robert Novak, who said he got the information from two senior administration officials.

Wilson, former ambassador to the West African nation of Gabon, said he has long been a Kerry supporter and has contributed $2,000 to the campaign this year. He said he has been advising Kerry on foreign policy for about five months and will campaign for Kerry, including a trip to New Hampshire next month.

Posted 10/23/2003 3:12 PM

USATODAY.com - Former ambassador Wilson endorses Kerry in presidential race

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2003-10-23-kerry-endorsement_x.htm

http://tinyurl.com/d2vkq

[BibChr]

So... what are you saying? Are you trying to suggest that Wilson might be less than completely trustworthy?

Dan
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[BadAndy]

Joe Wilson and Richard Clarke, both despicible Bush hating SOB's, separated at birth.

[Sam Hill]

A Letter from Joe Wilson
on John Kerry

Read Joe Wilson's Chat Transcript Here

I'm not a politician and I'm not a political partisan. I've served under Presidents from both parties. My loyalty has always been to country and constitution.

The first President Bush appointed me as Ambassador to two African countries and President Clinton put me in charge of African Affairs at the National Security Council. So when this President Bush's Administration sent me to Africa to investigate claims that Saddam Hussein was seeking to buy materials for weapons of mass destruction, I was ready to serve.

But I wasn't ready to keep quiet when this President misled the nation in his State of the Union Address. Because of that, leakers in the Bush White House illegally revealed that my wife worked in the CIA - endangering her life and that of my family. They tried to intimidate me and others who were willing to speak up and tell the truth.

"...I wasn't ready to keep quiet when this President misled the nation in his State of the Union Address..."

Some people have said I was courageous to speak truth to the power of the Bush White House. But let me tell you, what I have done doesn't hold a candle to the courage that John Kerry showed as a young man and throughout his political career. I am supporting him for President because he has been willing to tell the truth no matter what the pressure. He is ready to restore truth and honor to the White House. And I hope that everyone else who is outraged by this Administration and who wants to change America will join me in doing all you can to make John Kerry our next President.

"...John Kerry...has the personal courage and integrity that I want in the leader of our great nation..."

In deciding on the best candidate to support in next year's election, I looked for qualities that are important in a President: leadership, experience and courage. There are many candidates who possess admirable traits but only one who has summoned the nerve to stand up to our government and for what's right over and over again: John Kerry.

To speak out against bad policies after a career of accomplishments, as I recently did, is a civic duty. To do so as a young person, as John Kerry did, in the face of the unremitting official hostility to end a bad war, is truly inspiring. John Kerry didn't have to go to Vietnam. He volunteered and served bravely earning a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts. And when he came home as a decorated hero, he didn't have to fight the war. But John Kerry helped lead the fight to end the war, he earned the wrath of Richard Nixon and his cronies, and he won the respect of Americans for his courage.

"...I am honored to endorse John Kerry and to commit myself to his campaign to wrest our democracy back from those who have so squandered the public trust..."

Throughout his career in public service he has been ready to hold government accountable again and again. He blew the whistle on Ronald Reagan and Oliver North's secret war in Central America. He exposed Manuel Noriega's drug laundering operation. And he wrote a nationally acclaimed book on fighting global terrorism long before September 11th.

John Kerry is a decorated veteran, an experienced public servant, and a man of integrity. But most of all, he has the personal courage and integrity that I want in the leader of our great nation.

George Bush's Administration has betrayed our trust - I know that personally. I am honored to endorse John Kerry and to commit myself to his campaign to wrest our democracy back from those who have so squandered the public trust.

I hope you will join us.

- Joe Wilson

[Sam Hill]

"I'm not a politician and I'm not a political partisan."

Hilariously, this was the first thing that Joe Wilson said on his "Restore Honesty" website. Which was paid for by John Kerry.

[Jhensy]

I wonder where Chris Lehane fits in all this...

[BARLF]

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20030719-120154-5384r.htm

Read down in the article a way where Wilson first saw the fake uranium docs. He knew they were fake? Then why did he take the vaca..the trip to Niger for tea and crumpets?

[boop]

Wow! Wilson was on the bandwagon early for Kerry. He was sending $ even before he was "outraged" at Bush.

[Shaka]

Yes I did. Very nicely done!

[GRRRRR]

FReeekin' great work...I've emailed it to Sean, Brit and Rush...keep yer ears open to hear if they pick up on this thread...

G

[goosie]

This is so interesting. I had just read page 161 in "The Truth About Hillary" by Edward Klein about Mandy. She was liberal to the core but grew up in a Republican household.

Strange how takes are so different.

[TexasCajun]

Good Work!

You can add Mark Levin's documentation to your compilation.

Valerie’s No Victim
Plame put herself into a political place.

Let's cut through all the clutter: Almost two years ago, I wrote that Joe Wilson had himself to blame for the publicity surrounding his wife, Valerie Plame. I was wrong. Look to Valerie Plame herself.

http://www.nationalreview.com/levin/levin200507181123.asp

[Sacajaweau]

Mandy's father, Henry, died in February 2005. What did Daddy know?? and pass on to Mandy. For all we know, Daddy left Mandy volumes and volumes of "sources".

[Laverne]

It also jumped out at me that the FBI was discussing this with Sen Rockerfeller (ahah! The Rocky memo)! The article does not mention the chairman of the intel committee, only Senator Rocky.

[Sacajaweau]

I think it was a baby shower in 1998. You only give baby showers for "your closest" friends or relatives.

So that's that little circle...Hillary, Mandy Grunwald and hubby Matt Cooper.

The main scope of Judith Miller's works are WMD and Iraq. That points directly to Mr. & Mrs. Wilson. Wilson's mistake was joining the Kerry campaign and probably dropping some "secrets".

To correct it, they used Cooper to make a couple of calls to get Rove and Libby "involved" prior to anything going to print.

[BARLF]

Yes, I caught that.

It is hard for me to keep the time line straight,so many different versions out there.

Did Wilson indicate he saw the fakes before going to Niger or not?

[Doctor Raoul]

Excellent!

[bitt]

'This isn't my full-time job, you know. (JK)'



well, you have over-performed, for a newbie.