Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Mo1
What I am saying is the politicians up in Congress some times need to shut their big fat mouths and just let the military, the President and those who actually know what they are doing .. do their job
Among the lessons not learned from Vietnam is that politicians make bad generals, even if they happen to have an "R" next to their names.

There's no need to "nuke" or bomb Mecca. I'd think if we lost a little more cultural sensitivity in places like Iraq we'd get a helluva lot farther in the WoT than bombing Mecca would get us.

Bombing Mecca would be about the same as someone bombing the Statue of Liberty: very, very little strategic value. Don't get me wrong; I'd laugh my worthless a** off if it actually happened, but I don't see it advancing the cause very far.

78 posted on 07/19/2005 12:08:02 AM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies ]


To: jayhorn

The strategic value is in the threat, not the action.


81 posted on 07/19/2005 12:09:35 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies ]

To: jayhorn

Bombing Mecca would be tantamount to taking two steps backward.


86 posted on 07/19/2005 12:11:14 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Whop-bobaloobop a WHOP BAM BOOM!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies ]

To: jayhorn
Bombing Mecca would be about the same as someone bombing the Statue of Liberty: very, very little strategic value.

Agree .. it would have very little strategic value .. plus it would make the Muslims over there go even more crazy

Which would end up making the WOT harder to fight .. Our troops don't need that .. they know what they are doing and yjey know how to fight a war

They are our Best of the Best!

Can't say the same about some in Congress

94 posted on 07/19/2005 12:19:33 AM PDT by Mo1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies ]

To: jayhorn; Sir Gawain; saradippity; CitizenUSA; Checkers; VietVet; agincourt1415; Siobhan
Like it or not, we are at war with a radical religion, not a country or state. The headquarters is Mecca, and the radical Islamists do in fact pray to Mecca, 5 times per day. They don't pray towards heaven.

Somewhere in the Pentagon, you can damn well guarentee that this option of a small tactical nuke directly on that Moon Rock has been seriously discussed as an option to an Islamic nuclear attack:


"...lots of sentiment for nuking Mecca... Mecca seems extreme, of course, but then again few people would die and it would send a signal.'' ~ Rich Lowry, Senior Editor, The National Review, March 2002.

"It (Mecca) plays a central role in Muslim worship. Five times a day Muslims pray toward it. All Muslims who have the means are expected to make the Hajj--a pilgrimage to Mecca which revolves around the Kaaba stone.

The Kaaba stone is really the reason Mecca is considered holy. Muslims believe the site was used for worship as far back as Adam and that the shrine around the stone was first placed there by Abraham (Ibrahim). There is a 12 mile zone around the stone that infidels are restricted from entering. It's that holy. No non-Muslims near it. In fact, without Mecca and the Kaaba stone, Islam would be very different.

Islamist terrorists also consider Mecca the holiest place in the world. It is central to their mode of worship. They face it when they pray. They too believe they must make the hajj. If we take them at their word, then the reason they commit terrorist acts is because they take their religious convictions so seriously. When they kill us, it is because they believe that this is what their God wants them to do.

"There has been a rumor floating in the Washington ether for some time now that George Bush has figured out what Sword of Damocles is suspended over Osama bin Laden's head. It's whispered among Capitol Hill staffers on the intel and armed services committees; White House NSC (National Security Council) members clam up tight if you begin to hint at it; and State Department neo-cons love to give their liberal counterparts cardiac arrhythmia by elliptically conversing about it in their presence.

The whispers and hints and ellipses are getting louder now because the rumor explains the inexplicable: Why hasn't there been a repeat of 9-11? How can it be that after this unimaginable tragedy and Osama's constant threats of another, we have gone over three years without a single terrorist attack on American soil?"

Available only to subscribers of To the Point, Wheeler ends his column by explaining the effectiveness of the Mecca threat.

"Completely obliterating the terrorists' holiest of holies, rendering what is for them the world's most sacred spot a radioactive hole in the ground is retribution of biblical proportions – and those are the only proportions that will do the job.

"Osama would have laughed off such a threat, given his view that Americans are wussies who cut and run after a few losses, such as Lebanon in 1983 and Somalia in 1993. Part of Bush's rationale for invading Afghanistan and Iraq – obviously never expressed publicly – was to convince Osama that his threat to nuke Mecca was real. Osama hates America just as much as ever, but he is laughing no more." ~ Dr. Jack Wheeler; 'To the Point'

http://mightyrighty.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-353.html


A War Between Civilizations

The Koran sees the world as divided into two — one part which has come under Islamic rule and one part which is supposed to come under Islamic rule in the future. There is a division of the world which is very clear. Every single person who starts studying Islam knows it.

The world is described as Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) — that's the place where Islam rules — and the other part which is called Dar al-Harb — the house of war. Not the "house of non-Muslims," but the "house of war." It is this house of war which as to be, at the end of time, conquered.

The world will continue to be in the house of war until it comes under Islamic rule." [snip]



154 posted on 07/19/2005 8:15:38 AM PDT by FBD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson