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To: rawhide
The government has had to step in and protect the worker because...

... because politicians are all too happy to step in and fix whatever ails the voters, rather than acknowledge the fact that it's not the government's role.

Rather than turning to Uncle Sam for help, workers could, for instance, pool their measly resources to form a coalition and expose and put pressure on a-hole employers such as those you mentioned.

But, that would require some real effort, and politicians are all too happy to do whatever it takes to make the people like them. After all, we elected them to help us.

17 posted on 07/20/2005 8:46:55 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: newgeezer

How sad you must be that the good old days of sweatshops, company towns, company stores, company police, workers paid in company scrip, secretaries sleeping with the boss are over.

The job may be the employer's property. But I am not.


23 posted on 07/20/2005 8:58:25 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: newgeezer
Rather than turning to Uncle Sam for help, workers could, for instance, pool their measly resources to form a coalition and expose and put pressure on a-hole employers such as those you mentioned.

This is called a labor union.

43 posted on 07/20/2005 10:25:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: newgeezer
Sounds like you're opining as to how you'd like things to be, rather than how things are.

Employment is a contract between employer and employee. The contract includes all relevant federal, state, and local laws, as well as verbal agreements. (Though verbal agreements are difficult to prove in court.)

Assuming the facts as published are true, it is likely that Allstate violated the employment contract with this employee by violating his 1st Amendment rights. If that or something similar is the final ruling, Allstate will likely have to pay monetary damages to the employee for violating that contract, as well as a hefty fine to the fedgov for the Civil Rights violation.

The man is not the property of the employee, no matter how you might want him to be. And as a conservative, surely you aren't suggesting that the employment contract is superceded by the employer's "job" rights? (since you keep repeating the chant that the job belongs to the company.)

51 posted on 07/20/2005 10:41:47 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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