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The Last Comanche Code-Talker is gone.
Free Republic | 7-20-05 | Free Republic

Posted on 07/20/2005 8:10:35 PM PDT by Old Landmarks

The last Comanche Code-Talker, Charles Chibitty has passed away. He died at around 4 p.m. today in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

He was 83 years of age, just shy of 84. Charlie had been ill and in the hospital for several months.

He was a friend to many of us and a good father, husband and soldier.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: americanindians; codetalkers; obituary; soldier; veteran; windtalkers; worldwar2
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Rest in peace old warrior.
1 posted on 07/20/2005 8:10:35 PM PDT by Old Landmarks
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To: Old Landmarks

RIP to this great American. His legend and that of his fellow code talkers will live on.


2 posted on 07/20/2005 8:12:19 PM PDT by Paradox (Its a good thing that even when you dismiss the existence of God, he doesn't dismiss you.)
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To: Old Landmarks; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Kathy in Alaska; Fawnn; HiJinx; Radix; Spotsy; ...

Fallen Code Talker


3 posted on 07/20/2005 8:13:14 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Old Landmarks

Can anyone recommend a good site to read up on what they did? Thanks.


4 posted on 07/20/2005 8:14:21 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: SandRat

Thanks for the ping, SR. Ode to a fallen warrior.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 8:14:42 PM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Old Landmarks

God bless this brave man.



Comanche Code Talker
Charles Chibitty
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By Rudi Williams / American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 8, 2002 — After meeting with the defense secretary and other top Pentagon officials on Nov. 5, Charles Chibitty, the last surviving World War II Comanche code talker, donned his feathered Indian chief's headdress and offered a prayer in the Pentagon Chapel for those killed in the terrorist attack on the building.

The aging code talker then placed a wreath and offered an Indian prayer at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington (Va.) National Cemetery. This marks the third time the 81-year old war veteran was honored at the Pentagon for his service to the nation. His visits in 1992 and 1999 were during National American Indian Heritage Month.

>>>snip
Since there was no Comanche word for machine gun it became "sewing machine," Chibitty noted, "because of the noise the sewing machine made when my mother was sewing." Hitler, he said, was "posah-tai-vo," or "crazy white man."

>>>snip
http://defendamerica.mil/profiles/nov2002/pr111202a.html


6 posted on 07/20/2005 8:15:42 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("Old Hippies" re-living their activist youth - the first time nostalgia had a body count attached.)
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To: rawhide

For the military, they talked in code using Comanche.


7 posted on 07/20/2005 8:18:39 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: rawhide

http://bingaman.senate.gov/code_talkers/

We have a Navajo code talker here (Cortez Colorado)...he speaks several times a month to anyone who wants to attend. His name is Samuel Sandoval.


8 posted on 07/20/2005 8:19:11 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the children!)
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To: Old Landmarks
I had thought that the code talkers were all Navajo. Any idea how many from of other tribes were involved?
9 posted on 07/20/2005 8:19:37 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy
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To: Old Landmarks
His spirit is now as his words were once...part of the wind, part of the sky, without substance, yet powerful enough to defeat an imperial army.
10 posted on 07/20/2005 8:19:54 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Old Landmarks

The Code-Talkers were a blessing to America; they're services are written down on the pages of history.

Hope you found the "green pastures", Charles.


11 posted on 07/20/2005 8:21:29 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: SandRat

RIP hero.


12 posted on 07/20/2005 8:23:10 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: trussell

Thanks, very interesting read.


13 posted on 07/20/2005 8:24:32 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Old Landmarks

Bless our native brothers.


14 posted on 07/20/2005 8:25:35 PM PDT by beaver fever
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To: rawhide

Good movie about them with Nicholas Cage -- wither called Windtalkers or Codetalkers -- highly reccommend it.


15 posted on 07/20/2005 8:25:45 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Old Landmarks; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; Blue Scourge; ...
"The last Comanche Code-Talker, Charles Chibitty has passed away. He died at around 4 p.m. today in Tulsa, Oklahoma."


16 posted on 07/20/2005 8:25:52 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Rest in Peace Brother)
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To: Old Landmarks

Bookmark.


17 posted on 07/20/2005 8:26:02 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: acad1228; Old Sarge

Ping


18 posted on 07/20/2005 8:26:34 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

A Hero gone to his great reward.


These men were giants.


19 posted on 07/20/2005 8:27:35 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (This Little Light of Mine...)
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To: Old Landmarks

May God bless a fallen American hero.

Every time I read of another hero passing, it brings tears to my eyes. They were incredible men and I pray that we will continue to have generations of Americans that live up to the example that they have set.


20 posted on 07/20/2005 8:29:50 PM PDT by Tailback (USAF distinguished rifleman badge #300, German Schutzenschnur in Gold)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Hero bump!


21 posted on 07/20/2005 8:29:57 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Old Landmarks
He will have a joyful eternity... Ping for that soldier!
22 posted on 07/20/2005 8:31:01 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; SandRat

God rest his soul. God bless Charles Chibitty, and his family.


23 posted on 07/20/2005 8:31:46 PM PDT by laurenmarlowe
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To: rawhide

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Charles+Chibitty%22&btnG=Google+Search


24 posted on 07/20/2005 8:31:55 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("Old Hippies" re-living their activist youth - the first time nostalgia had a body count attached.)
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To: Old Landmarks

Sending him off with such gratitude.


25 posted on 07/20/2005 8:34:32 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Old Landmarks

Rest in peace Soldier.

26 posted on 07/20/2005 8:35:13 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (I AM an AMERICAN not because I live in America but because America lives in me!~Ray Cornelius~)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Salute!

Rest easy.


27 posted on 07/20/2005 8:35:59 PM PDT by amom
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Rest in Peace!


28 posted on 07/20/2005 8:37:13 PM PDT by EsmeraldaA (That witch does not kill me, makes me stronger (NIETZSCHE))
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

CHARLES CHIBITTY--COMANCHE CODE-TALKER
REST IN PEACE

29 posted on 07/20/2005 8:38:13 PM PDT by LUV W (God bless the British People in their hour of sorrow! God rain retribution down on all terrorists!!!)
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To: Old Landmarks

Prayers Up... RIP


31 posted on 07/20/2005 8:43:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: All
Link to a good photo of the Comanche group.

My dad (tank commander) was a buddy of Charlie's during the War and I grew up hearing about him. Only after the government broke the silence about the talkers decades later did my dad tell me about the secret stuff. Those guys were loyal to the end.

32 posted on 07/20/2005 8:47:43 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thank God for this hero!


33 posted on 07/20/2005 8:49:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Old Landmarks
Thanks for the ping Tonk..

May this brave and noble warrior always soar with the eagle and watch over us from above.

34 posted on 07/20/2005 8:50:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; ...
God Bless The American    Indian Code Talkers
The Navajo code talkers took part in every assault the U.S. Marines conducted in the Pacific from 1942 to 1945. They served in all six Marine divisions, Marine Raider battalions and Marine parachute units, transmitting messages by telephone and radio in their native language -- a code that the Japanese never broke.

Why Navajo?
The idea to use Navajo for secure communications came from Philip Johnston, the son of a missionary to the Navajos and one of the few non-Navajos who spoke their language fluently. Johnston, reared on the Navajo reservation, was a World War I veteran who knew of the military's search for a code that would withstand all attempts to decipher it. He also knew that Native American languages—notably Choctaw—had been used in World War I to encode messages.

Johnston believed Navajo answered the military requirement for an undecipherable code because Navajo is an unwritten language of extreme complexity. Its syntax and tonal qualities, not to mention dialects, make it unintelligible to anyone without extensive exposure and training. It has no alphabet or symbols, and is spoken only on the Navajo lands of the American

35 posted on 07/20/2005 8:51:49 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Old Landmarks

Being from Arizona, I had heard a lot about the Navajo code talkers and what they did during World War II, but only recently found out about the service of the Comanche code talkers . This old soldier salutes another soldier who has gone to heaven.


36 posted on 07/20/2005 8:53:31 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: rawhide; StarCMC

Star, have you run across any Code Talker sites in your research?


37 posted on 07/20/2005 8:54:32 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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To: StarCMC

I know the movie you're talking about, I have it on VHS. I believe it's "Windtalkers", but I'll have to watch it tomorrow night to make sure. ;^)

RIP to a good, fine, upstanding Marine, from an Army guy...


38 posted on 07/20/2005 8:54:54 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Unleash Karl Rove!!!)
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To: R W Reactionairy

The Code-Talkers saved many lives. There is a nice Code-Talker display in Kayenta, Arizona on the Navajo reservation. It is in a Burger King, of all places -- which is perfect because it is easy to find, and open on weekends. If you are going from Durango to Flagstaff you will go right by it. After Kayenta and Tuba City you will see the herds of sheep tended only by sheep dogs. It is a beautiful part of the country.


39 posted on 07/20/2005 8:54:56 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Thanks for the ping on this - saw a documentary a while back on the history channel about the Code-Talkers. This is a pic of Mr Chibitty.



40 posted on 07/20/2005 8:55:46 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Old Landmarks; La Enchiladita

God Bless this American Hero. Rest in Peace Charles Chibitty. My prayers go out to his family & friends.


41 posted on 07/20/2005 8:58:02 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: Old Landmarks

Thanks for the link...I do find this disturbing tho...

"In 1989 the French Government honored the survivors of the group for their important contribution with the “Chevalier de L’Order National du Merite.” The United States government has not offered any special recognition for the group."

So sad that our own government thinks so little of its' veterans.


42 posted on 07/20/2005 9:00:57 PM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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To: Smartass
The Navajo code talkers took part in every assault the U.S. Marines conducted in the Pacific from 1942 to 1945. They served in all six Marine divisions, Marine Raider battalions and Marine parachute units, transmitting messages by telephone and radio in their native language -- a code that the Japanese never broke.

Charles Chibitty was one of 17 Oklahoma Comanches attached to the 4th Infantry Division, 4th Signal Corps, during WWII. They made the D-Day landing and served as communicators through St. Lo, Huertgen Forest, Battle of the Bulge, and Germany without a single mistake or fatality to their group.

43 posted on 07/20/2005 9:01:56 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: rawhide
The Indian code talkers could communicate and get the message interpreted in a couple of minutes what would normally take much, much longer to decode.

Plus the Japanese were great code breakers but they didn't have a clue how to break the Indian language codes. They never came close to breaking them and were completely baffled.

44 posted on 07/20/2005 9:05:22 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man.)
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To: HiJinx
I had read about the Navajo Code Talkers - I never realized that the Comanche were used too. Here is a little information about them.
45 posted on 07/20/2005 9:09:06 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: politicalwit

It might make you feel a little better regarding the deserved recognition for the Code-Talkers if you check out this link. One recognition from the Pentagon was presented by our now VP Cheney in '92. There were others.
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/1999/b11301999_bt550-99.html


46 posted on 07/20/2005 9:09:56 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Old Landmarks
May his spirit rest forever...
47 posted on 07/20/2005 9:10:02 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; TrueBeliever9; anniegetyourgun; maestro; TEXOKIE; ...
After meeting with the defense secretary and other top Pentagon officials on Nov. 5, Charles Chibitty, the last surviving World War II Comanche code talker, donned his feathered Indian chief's headdress and offered a prayer in the Pentagon Chapel for those killed in the terrorist attack on the building.

The aging code talker then placed a wreath and offered an Indian prayer at the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington (Va.) National Cemetery. This marks the third time the 81-year old war veteran was honored at the Pentagon for his service to the nation. His visits in 1992 and 1999 were during National American Indian Heritage Month.


48 posted on 07/20/2005 9:14:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: R W Reactionairy

I know Choctaw were. I also remember Sioux, Creek, Kiowa, Hopi... I know there were quite a few others.


49 posted on 07/20/2005 9:15:32 PM PDT by kenth
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To: HiJinx
Here's some more
50 posted on 07/20/2005 9:17:48 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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