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To: mewzilla
I think the Dems know they'll look like what they are, unreasonable obstructionists, if they fight this nomination.

The Dems will keep their power dry for the next SC nomination Bush makes. They were outwitted this time and they know it.
14 posted on 07/21/2005 3:44:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, I'd like to know who the gutless, anonymous Dem is. Someone should get Hilliary on the record.


16 posted on 07/21/2005 3:46:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I believe that the anticipated bloody fight is not going to occur.

For a change, the Dims may do something smart.

25 posted on 07/21/2005 3:55:05 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I think the Dems know they'll look like what they are, unreasonable obstructionists, if they fight this nomination.

Political parties always go with things that they believe will get them elected. They also instinctively oppose things the other party supports.

But when a solid majority of voters take a position it is not long until both parties support that position. People whose views are opposed by a majority of voters can not get elected to the presidency.

Ever since 1980 the nation has been trending anti abortion and pro American defense. The hate war and kill babies mentality of the 1960s has been decreasing. It has reached a point where those that support those views can not get elected.

What tends to happes is the party base at first nominates people who can only lose. Then cooler heads prevail and those that can win get nominated. On issues like abortion, the party loses by being on the wrong side. Then it starts allowing people who do not share the party line to be considered members in good standing. Then it ignores the issue as much as it can. Finally the party adopts the exact opposite of its former policy on the issue.

At lot of the Democratic base has moved to the swing voter status. President Bush got 45 percent of the Hispanic vote. In Ohio President Bush got 18 percent of the black vote. Both of these minorities were once thought to be part of the rock solid Democratic base. They are slipping away from Democrat control. The Democrats will have to adopt the Republican positions that are causing the erosion or become a permanent minority party.

The far left is losing control of the Democratic party. It will take a massive national defeat for the Howard Deans to go away. But that is in the works.

I suspect that history will see the next 12 years as golden age of conservatism.

39 posted on 07/21/2005 4:20:49 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Dems will keep their power dry for the next SC nomination Bush makes. They were outwitted this time and they know it.

I'm not so sure. I believe before Roberts is confirmed we will hear assurances that he will not overturn Roe. They knew they were going to get a conservative judge, but they could at least try to protect their past victories from being undone, and I believe that is what they have done. They have used the filibuster and the deal with the Gang of 14 to draw a line in the sand. I heard on Scarborough last night that the White House called his show to correct something the show broadcast the day before that said Roberts would overturn Roe. The White House called him and said "Roberts supports Roe v Wade." I'm waiting to hear more about that.

44 posted on 07/21/2005 4:31:29 AM PDT by Huck (Whatever.)
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