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SOCOM SCAR Enters Service
Strategy Page ^ | July 21, 2005

Posted on 07/21/2005 3:32:57 PM PDT by spetznaz

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1 posted on 07/21/2005 3:32:58 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: spetznaz

It definitely passes the coolness test.
I've read several other articles about this and believe its an idea that is past due. The M16 is just too fragile.
My opinion based on what I hear, and owning one.
They are fun to shoot and accurate, but hard to maintain.


2 posted on 07/21/2005 3:36:55 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: spetznaz

One wonders why the capability to change out the barrel and fire Ak47 rounds?

What are the chances of having the barrels on hand when only AK rounds are available.

This seems more like an option to sell it to foreign armys, which seems inadvisable these days.


3 posted on 07/21/2005 3:38:06 PM PDT by konaice
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To: spetznaz

SWEET

Where can I get one....

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

4 posted on 07/21/2005 3:39:21 PM PDT by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: spetznaz

SCAR has been reopened for re trials...

Leitner-Wise
MGI
Robinson Arms
and my favorite POF

Among others have weapon systems as good if not better than
FN entry..not the politcal clout but privately owned American companies with some great ideals


5 posted on 07/21/2005 3:39:25 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The state always has solutions to the problems it creates...more freedom will never be a solution)
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To: konaice

I want one!!!!


6 posted on 07/21/2005 3:41:15 PM PDT by GRRRRR (I've Had it with the Islamofascists...time to put em away for good!)
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To: spetznaz
The 'Operators' wanted the side-folding stock to cover the ejection port and charging handle when folded?

Whatever. Looks like a updated slab-side FN-FNC.

I say 'Meh'.

7 posted on 07/21/2005 3:42:17 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: konaice

It might be for spec ops guys deep behind enemy lines and maybe short on ammo, and thus may need the ability to scavenge and use Kalashnikov rounds from neutralized enemies. I doubt that separate barrels would be issued to all and sundry, and thus it would only be a factor for a small cadre of users that might need such capability.


8 posted on 07/21/2005 3:46:23 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: ottersnot

I concure, that it passes the coolness test. I'm glad to see they aren't stuck trying to continue using a round that doesn't kill what you are shooting at.

I had no maintainence issues with the M-16A2's we had in the desert. I cleaned mine about 2x per month, not one misfire in 13 months.

The M9 is another story, but then we weren't talkin' pistols were we? lol


9 posted on 07/21/2005 3:47:41 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (IT IS A GLOBAL WAR AGAINST ISLAMO-NAZISM ...and Communists)
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To: joesnuffy

Might you have a link. That is quite interesting .... I thought the trials were over and FN won the golden apple. What caused the changes? Thanks.


10 posted on 07/21/2005 3:48:32 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz

The new 6.8 round seems to have respectable ballistics, superior to the 5.56. But I'm old fashioned, I still like my FN-FAL in .308.


11 posted on 07/21/2005 3:52:15 PM PDT by n230099
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To: joesnuffy

POF?


12 posted on 07/21/2005 3:53:24 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: spetznaz

POF plus Noveske's Krink Brake..this puppy will come in 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel as well as .556 NATO

US Company and US inventors

AR15 thread

13 posted on 07/21/2005 3:54:51 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The state always has solutions to the problems it creates...more freedom will never be a solution)
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To: spetznaz

I agree with your comments. Necessity is the mother of invention. I would add that the sound or noise signature of an AK47 when fired is quite noticeable and distinct. By having the capability to convert to an AK 47 round, perhaps the sound from this FN weapon will be similar to an AK47 and which will will permit our spec ops folks to not be as detectable in a firefight. Every little bit of surprise and stealth helps.


14 posted on 07/21/2005 4:01:38 PM PDT by miele man
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To: spetznaz

Some features:

Bolt locks back after the last round is fired.

Angled axis of stock pivot puts the folded stock out of the way of the ejection port, allowing firing when folded.

5.56 accepts M16 mags.

Gas operated (yecch!)


15 posted on 07/21/2005 4:01:52 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: konaice
One wonders why the capability to change out the barrel and fire Ak47 rounds?

It actually fires the 7.62x51 NATO round, same as the G3, FN FAL, M240 series, M-14, and a host of other weapons. AKs fire the 7.62x39.

As for why, one can only speculate that the users wanted a round with a little more punch than 5.56.

- ThreeTracks

16 posted on 07/21/2005 4:07:33 PM PDT by ThreeTracks
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To: ThreeTracks
It actually fires the 7.62x51 NATO round, same as the G3, FN FAL, M240 series, M-14, and a host of other weapons. AKs fire the 7.62x39.

From the story:

SCAR-H can be quickly converted to fire AK-47 ammo (the 7.62x39 round) with a changeout of the barrel and receiver.

Other than behind the lines use, this seems less than usefull. Even there, if it does not use AK clips the time consuming task of transfering amo from captured clips to your own clip pretty much makes that a PITA.

17 posted on 07/21/2005 4:12:17 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Nat Turner

And deer season is not that far off. :-)


18 posted on 07/21/2005 4:16:24 PM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: konaice
SCAR-H can be quickly converted to fire AK-47 ammo (the 7.62x39 round) with a changeout of the barrel and receiver.

But if you look at the picture, which was actually generated by the manufacturer, it very clearly says 7.62x51. The magazine also appears to be a 7.62x51 mag, not 7.62x39.

Perhaps there's a third variant of this weapon that does use AK ammunition, but the one pictured and described in the company literature uses NATO rounds.

- ThreeTracks

19 posted on 07/21/2005 4:17:08 PM PDT by ThreeTracks
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To: ThreeTracks

Just read the story. I didn't make this up.


20 posted on 07/21/2005 4:20:52 PM PDT by konaice
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