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Bill calls for sex offenders' castration - mandatory castration of violent sex offenders
Associated Press ^ | July 22, 2005 | BOB JOHNSON

Posted on 07/22/2005 4:56:57 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

MONTGOMERY - The House passed a bill Thursday that would require mandatory castration of people convicted of violent sex crimes against children under 12 and would require them to wear electronic monitoring devices for the rest of their lives after release from prison.

The House, during more than three hours of debate, heavily amended the legislation proposed by Gov. Bob Riley and Attorney General Troy King. The House bill would prevent all convicted sex offenders from working or loitering within 500 feet of a school, park or business that educates or entertains children. The bill passed the House 96-0.

A milder version of the legislation passed the Senate 35-0. The Senate version increases penalties for sex offenders, provides for electronic monitoring for at least 10 years and toughens requirements for them to report their location to police.

But it does not include the castration requirement or tougher language added in the House. The version of the bill passed in the Senate is what King recommended.

House Speaker Seth Hammett later said he was concerned the House might have amended the bill so much that it is no longer constitutional. He said he hopes the final version will be closer to what Riley and King wanted.

Either the House or Senate version must pass in the other chamber before the legislation can become law.

"We want to send a message that if you are


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To: SLB

Works for me.


61 posted on 07/22/2005 7:57:04 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: stockpirate

Reality is that there's other ways than sex to express aggression. The fact that some of these folks choose sex to do it, suggests (empirically) that there is a sexual element to their actions. It's not a normal sexual urge, but it is sexual nonetheless.


62 posted on 07/22/2005 8:11:48 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

There are several very good books on the subject written.

They actually get a bigger high off of what they do before they commit the sex act.

The stalking, planning, thinking about it, the excitement. This is considered to be level four of sexual addiction and is the worse level.

The sex act is actually a let down and they fell bad about it, To overcome the feelings about this they have to start the additive cycle all over again.

Read "None Dare Call It Love: Recovery from Sexual Addiction", by Patrick Carnes. He also has several other books on the same topic and is considered one of the foremost researchers into this area.


63 posted on 07/22/2005 10:19:32 AM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight the Muslim Army in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Check my homepage)
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To: Former Military Chick

This is the least that should be done.

What do the Liberaltarians think?


64 posted on 07/22/2005 10:20:55 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: stockpirate

Sounds like you're separating sex from foreplay ...


65 posted on 07/22/2005 10:31:43 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Former Military Chick

My only questions are: What about when violent crimes are committed against children 13 years old and on up? And how about when violent crimes are committed against young adults and middler agers and the elderly?

I think ALL violent and/or repeat offenders should be castrated and leg cuffed forever. Period.


66 posted on 07/22/2005 10:33:12 AM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: r9etb

Stalking etc is no foreplay. If you recall this last guy stalked her parent and her friends for days before he moved in for the kill. That is the part they get off on. And the excitement of what they are going to do, the planning, stalking, watching, thinking about what he will do. The actual act of sex is not what they seek, it is somewhat of a letdown for them.

It is everything before that, even the choaking, beating, etc., but the sex act is not what they get the kick from.

Most actually feel bad after the sex act and that starts the cycle all over again to get them out of their feelings of guilt and shame.

Most are "acting out" scenes from their own childhood, not an excuse, just a fact.

I once knew a women whose claimed her parents were part of a Satanic Cult, at the age of 6 she was introduced to group sex with 10-12 men and the busness end of a cattle prod.


67 posted on 07/22/2005 11:22:33 AM PDT by stockpirate (We can fight the Muslim Army in Iraq! Or we can fight them outback! Check my homepage)
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To: Former Military Chick
mandatory castration of violent sex offenders

Would this actually stop sexual abuse...there's other ways besides having a penis to continue with sexual abuse. Will castration actually stop the thoughts that drives these sexual abusers? I've heard the only cure is a double tap to the head.

68 posted on 07/22/2005 11:27:20 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: TomSmedley
The death penalty is Biblically supportable. Mutilation isn't.

OK, then give them a choice. They get the death penalty, unless they want to be castrated instead.

69 posted on 07/22/2005 11:30:08 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: stockpirate
Stalking etc is no foreplay.

For you or me. It was for, e.g., Ted Bundy, however. I'm referring to the whole package, and you're referring to the sex act itself -- and even you're blaming the sex act for triggering the next round. The fact remains that all of this inevitably culminates in the sex act -- I really don't think it's kosher to try to separate the act itself from the events leading up to it....

These folks are sick, no doubt about it. (And they need lobotomies, perhaps, rather than castration.) What's "sexual" for them probably bears little resemblance to what's sexual for us.

70 posted on 07/22/2005 11:39:17 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: shield
Will castration actually stop the thoughts that drives these sexual abusers?

Does gun confiscation end murder? Blaming inanimate objects for bad behavior is attractive since it shifts responsibility to a simple object which can then be removed.

71 posted on 07/22/2005 11:49:26 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: TomSmedley

People convicted of violent sex crimes against children under 12 deserve every punishment that man can think of then be executed by stoning or starvation.

They can only be bred from Satan, IMO.


73 posted on 07/22/2005 6:47:51 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: SouthernFreebird

Isn't that known as the Lorana Bobbitt??


74 posted on 07/22/2005 7:20:19 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Restorer

True, but haven't judges offered that as an alternative to sentencing? This will have a fight to be used as a regulat alternative ... I say ship them to a remote island, surrounded by gator's and drop them off.


75 posted on 07/22/2005 7:22:04 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick
I have no problems with this.

It would enormously reduce the testosterone in a man, even if it wouldn't keep his mind clean. But without the testes, he will be much less likely to do anything.

Of course, a testosterone patch could temporarily reduce it. Conceivably, one could get a future testicular implant from a donor or grown for himself in a dish. I would expect laws should address these in some form, too.

A man does not deserve to keep either his nuts or his pee pee after a violent sex crime.
76 posted on 07/22/2005 9:38:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Rodney King

Well said!


77 posted on 07/22/2005 9:40:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

While this may be apples and oranges but what about Viagra.

Recently I believe sex offender's were being prescribed this medication and the government picks up the bill.

You do give food for thought on the long term issues. Thank you for the comment, friend.


78 posted on 07/23/2005 6:35:21 AM PDT by Former Military Chick (I salute all our Vets, those who walked before me and all those who walk after me.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Jefferson apparently did not think castration to be cruel or unusual.
79 posted on 07/23/2005 6:39:27 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Former Military Chick

While this is a good start and its great to see my Alabama legislators doing something useful for a change; but it isn't going to solve the problem. Only lifetime imprisonment or execution will help.


80 posted on 07/23/2005 6:42:20 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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