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Joseph Wilson's Amazing Left-Wing Dreamland
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | July 22, 2005 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 07/22/2005 6:04:44 AM PDT by cricket

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A Pre-Emptive Strike on Pro-War Intelligence

And when Wilson wrote his infamous Op-Ed, he was already involved in the Kerry campaign. Something the MSM never mentions, and which makes his political motives for the Op-Ed quite clear.

21 posted on 07/22/2005 7:11:33 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: cricket
Valerie Plame gave money to George Soros's ACT group!!! THAT speaks VOLUMES about her.

Joey Wilson slipped up VERY badly when he spoke ofthe "forged documents" that he wasn't supposed to have ever seen!!!!

I predict these two wll be criminally indicted.

22 posted on 07/22/2005 7:16:56 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cricket

"leftist climbers" should read "leftist Clymers".


23 posted on 07/22/2005 7:19:08 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cricket; Ann Archy

"leftist climbers" should read "leftist Clymers".


24 posted on 07/22/2005 7:19:29 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: dirtboy
" And when Wilson wrote his infamous Op-Ed, he was already involved in the Kerry campaign. Something the MSM never mentions, and which makes his political motives for the Op-Ed quite clear."

It is beyond the pale for sure; and more disappointing is listening to Fox News. . .play out the same 'spin'. . .rather than getting to the heart of the real travesty and story here.

If not for FR; alternative media/bloggers/ and of course, Rush and radio 'et al's; what we know about the truth of this matter. . ..

25 posted on 07/22/2005 7:20:41 AM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: Ann Archy
"leftist climbers" should read "leftist Clymers".

LOL(!) and for sure.

Ben. . .hear that?

26 posted on 07/22/2005 7:22:50 AM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: cricket

Amen to Fox News disappointment!! hey are absolutely no better than the others in false reporting on this story!! Fox News has such a leftist slant and so many leftists n there, that it's UNWATCHABLE for me anymore.


27 posted on 07/22/2005 7:29:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: sirchtruth

hahaha, my son is not here and I cannot quote you a paradiddle. so many things yet to learn ...


28 posted on 07/22/2005 7:35:37 AM PDT by bboop
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To: sirchtruth
Now, can anyone tell me what is a Paradiddle?

Sex in a hang-glider.

29 posted on 07/22/2005 7:40:06 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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"Valerie Plame gave money to George Soros's ACT group!!! THAT speaks VOLUMES about her."

Incredible, isn't it?

"I predict these two wll be criminally indicted"

I really hope that is the case. . .but then I thought Sandy Berger would have been the poster boy for 'frog marching in leg irons' by now. . .

So much 'compromising going on'. . .maybe these two, will announce an imposed long-suffering. . .a 'self-imposed' exile. . .blame Bush, of course. . .complete with new identies; et al. . .

Just wonder what the consequences of whose 'justice' will prevail against these two.. .would think their friends are not happy with the longer record of their both suffering from 'loose tongue syndrome'; which now threatens to undermine months; if not a few years of effort by the Left, to 'get GW'.

30 posted on 07/22/2005 7:43:51 AM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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"Now, can anyone tell me what is a Paradiddle?

'Sex in a hang-glider'.

A prize-winning answer!

If there were a prize, that is. . . ;^) Good one. . .

31 posted on 07/22/2005 7:47:00 AM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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hahaha, my son is not here and I cannot quote you a paradiddle. so many things yet to learn ...

Tap the famous "indian beat" (You know the one the indians use when their about to go to war in all those Western/Cowboy movies.) with your hand on something...

Da dum dum dum.

You'll be able to impress all your other mother freinds with this knowledge and probably your son!

32 posted on 07/22/2005 7:48:15 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: tarheelswamprat
Sex in a hang-glider.

LOL! That's very good!

33 posted on 07/22/2005 7:52:55 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: cricket

bump


34 posted on 07/22/2005 7:58:07 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: sirchtruth

That's a paradiddle?? The Indian Drums??? well what do you know.,


35 posted on 07/22/2005 9:52:45 AM PDT by bboop
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To: sirchtruth

That's a paradiddle?? The Indian Drums??? well what do you know.,


36 posted on 07/22/2005 9:52:52 AM PDT by bboop
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To: cricket
Like the Wilson family’s forlorn reaction to having media attention and a book deal thrust upon them, neither was the Plame/Wilson decision to go to Niger to check out the yellowcake uranium what it seemed. The duo set out to spike the Niger uranium story from the first. Upon hearing the CIA had opened an investigation into whether Saddam Hussein had attempted to purchase ingredients for a doomsday device from the sub-Saharan African nation, Plame lined up her hubby for the trip, knowing his political disposition. Upon telling Wilson of his assignment, she referred to the to the Niger claim as “this crazy report.” Inspector Wilson then, by his own account, spent “eight days drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people.” Despite his grueling interrogations, often conducted at poolside, he did not find anything whatever of value. He then went home and held his fire for months after President Bush cited the possible Niger yellowcake deal to write his op-ed. Wilson then claimed the documents Bush used to prove the yellowcake connection were forged, because “the dates were wrong and the names were wrong.” However, the CIA didn’t have those files until eight months after Wilson’s African vacation. Wilson sheepishly stated he may have “misspoken.” The Officials Who Knew Not Joseph “Misspoken” could designate every remark Wilson has ever made. His entire public testimony is a tear of lies.

I know this theory about a Wilson/Plame "left-wing plot" is popular here, but I'm afraid it is much more prosaic than that.

Yesterday's Washington Post story on the State Department memo says that the memo laid out that State had objected to Wilson's trip to Niger in the first place. State thought it had enough information in 2002 to refute the theory that Iraq had bought or tried to buy uranium ore from Niger. There was no need for a Wilson/Plame "plot" to gin up a bogus report to refute the Iraq/Niger claim. State was already saying this to the White House and the CIA knew it.

So why did the CIA send Joe Wilson to Niger anyway, over the objections of the State Department? Why was his report given in person and not in writing? Why did he wait for five months after the State of the Union to start peddling his story that the President was lying and he had the truth? If he and his wife were so hell-bent on undermining the President, why did Wilson not go public the day after the SOTU?

This theory does not add up. What does add up is that Joe Wilson had business dealings in Niger, he needed to cover them up, and he got his wife to push him for a trip there. He found nothing because he went there for another reason, to cover his own ass. His report was crap and the CIA put it on a shelf. Then the Kerry campaign found Wilson and together they drummed up the whole story that Bush was lying, and they sold it to the NYT and Washington Post to embarrass Bush in the middle of the campaign.

Wilson and Plame's contributions to Al Gore are easily explained. Wilson worked for Al Gore in the Senate. I'm sure he thought Gore was a great guy and would be a great President. Gore's staffers were very loyal to him. Gore probably got Wilson his gig at the White House. Doesn't mean Wilson is a left-wing fanatic. He doubtless did not think much of Bush, but his "Bush is lying about Iraq and uranium" story was a total invention by the Kerry campaign. It's made him a darling of the left and a fixture on the liberal cocktail party circuit, so of course he is sticking with it.

37 posted on 07/22/2005 11:29:59 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (If the WMD intelligence was so bad, why does Valerie Plame still have a job?)
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To: MinuteGal

An ass and his ass-et pretty much sums it up.


38 posted on 07/22/2005 11:42:45 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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"What does add up is that Joe Wilson had business dealings in Niger, he needed to cover them up, and he got his wife to push him for a trip there. He found nothing because he went there for another reason, to cover his own ass. His report was crap and the CIA put it on a shelf. "

I'm curious as to who paid for the trip and who Joe Wilson was working for (was he a fed employee - reeks of nepotism if so and if a contractor - conflict of interest on Plame!)
Either way him going on the trip, with her prodding, is bizarre.


39 posted on 07/22/2005 12:55:28 PM PDT by merry10
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To: mystery-ak

From what I heard last night, that memo had been circulating around the State Department the whole month of July.

It could have been anybody over there.


40 posted on 07/22/2005 1:44:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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