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To: ppaul
First, let me say that I am all for killing terrorists, lots of them, anytime, anywhere!

That said, have you noticed that police are saying very little about this particular guy - unlike the 7/7 bombers whose names & brief histories were quickly available. Have you seen a picture or heard his name or nationality? I haven't! If you have, let me have a link to your info.

What if he was just a regular ol' citizen trying to catch a subway while listening to some tunes - totally unaware of anyone following him! Haven't we all be so preoccupied with something that we would not notice a snake at our feet! If he had his cd player/radio up loud, he couldn't hear the police shouts to stop!

I am not trying to place blame here, but I do want to know (and I want police to know) the best way to "neutralize" the terrorists while assuring the safety of the public.

Clearly, the police action of putting 5 shots into his head suggests that police believed he had a bomb, yet they have said he was a suspect who was under surveillance. Why was he allowed to enter the subway at all? Wouldn't it be prudent to arrest/shoot him in the open, rather than the enclosed/crowded spaces of the subway?

IMHO, random searches INSIDE the subways are DOOMED to failure! Why? These scumbags are not robots - they don't have to wait til they sit down to detonate - they can do it at any time. In the stairwells, in the turnstile line, while waiting to be searched - anywhere, anytime! And if they get ahold to some type of chemical or biological stuff, injuries & death will no-longer be confined to a small area. So, why not search above ground?

Seems to me it would be far more effective to start detaining & questioning massive numbers of suspects, and searching their homes & businesses. Hoping to catch a bomber in public before he can press the button is a game we are sure to lose!

Look at Israel. Their relative success (good, but not perfect) is based on a WALL & extensive checkpoints with serious searches of pedestrians & vehicles. Not practical in a society where the enemy is part of that society.

So, you can start searching EVERYBODY, or, search the people you believe are responsible. Which do you think will be the most productive in protecting the lives of the public?
101 posted on 07/23/2005 8:59:05 AM PDT by Mister Da (Nuke 'em til they glow!)
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To: Mister Da

"That said, have you noticed that police are saying very little about this particular guy - unlike the 7/7 bombers whose names & brief histories were quickly available. Have you seen a picture or heard his name or nationality? I haven't! If you have, let me have a link to your info."

It's looking less likely that he was involved. See here:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1190065,00.html

"A police statement said: "We believe we now know the identity of the man shot at Stockwell Underground station by police, although he is still subject to formal identification.

"We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents of Thursday 21st July 2005.

"For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets.""

That doesn't look great to be honest.


110 posted on 07/23/2005 9:20:49 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Mister Da
Also, Israel primarily looks for the PEOPLE who can potentially carry out an attack.

We here in the benevolent, politically correct West, look for the TOOLS that can be potentially used in carrying out an attack.

Since the TOOLS can vary into hundreds of different forms, but the PEOPLE cannot vary that much, we waste our time with the West approach and in not adopting the Israel approach.

114 posted on 07/23/2005 10:05:40 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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