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Egyptian [Death] Toll Hits 88; Mubarak Vows Hunt (with graphic photos)
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 7/23/05

Posted on 07/23/2005 12:17:44 PM PDT by Wolfstar

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To: The Brush
Any cleric who praises the crimes of these murderers should be targeted as a suspect in the war on terrorism.

And removed immediately from society, one way or another.

41 posted on 07/23/2005 12:47:29 PM PDT by Wolfstar (The Dim Party and its fellow leftist travelers want nothing less than the fall of the United States.)
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To: McGavin999
Why on earth are these animals doing this?

Because they can.
Because they are tolerated to thrive and grow.
Because the countries that allow this, for whatever reason, thought they were immune to the consequences.

42 posted on 07/23/2005 12:50:04 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Wolfstar

I wonder if this is finally enough for the "moderate" Islamic countries to quit shrugging their shoulders when events like this happen. I realize that they thought this was all fine when it was only happening to Jews and Americans but now I wonder if this is finally their wake up call to become more active participants in the war on terror.


43 posted on 07/23/2005 12:50:21 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Bon mots
The Egyptians had better pull out of Muslim lands.

Cute.
Ha ha?

44 posted on 07/23/2005 12:51:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Rokke
You don't get that much damage to concrete structures without a large amount of high explosive.

Agreed. In the linked article, there's some preliminary estimates on the amount of explosives used in two of the bombings. Those interested in this aspect of the incident are encouraged to used the link above to get the latest info.

45 posted on 07/23/2005 12:52:28 PM PDT by Wolfstar (The Dim Party and its fellow leftist travelers want nothing less than the fall of the United States.)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
I wonder if this is finally their wake up call to become more active participants in the war on terror.

Although I wouldn't sit around holding my breath that this will happen, we certainly can hope that it does.

46 posted on 07/23/2005 12:54:11 PM PDT by Wolfstar (The Dim Party and its fellow leftist travelers want nothing less than the fall of the United States.)
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To: Publius6961; Bon mots
The Egyptians had better pull out of Muslim lands.

Cute.
Ha ha?

While heavily ironic, the double meaning really is the answer.

47 posted on 07/23/2005 12:56:25 PM PDT by Wolfstar (The Dim Party and its fellow leftist travelers want nothing less than the fall of the United States.)
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To: Wolfstar
EGYPT OUT OF IRAQ!.....UH......Egypt isn't there...are they?
48 posted on 07/23/2005 12:58:55 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: Wolfstar

Don't forget to remove the cleric's followers, as well.


49 posted on 07/23/2005 12:58:56 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Wolfstar

bump


50 posted on 07/23/2005 1:17:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Wolfstar
They are at war with us, and these are not criminal acts, but acts of war.

People need to understand this point - these homicide bombings are merely counter attacks utilizing their most effective weapons. Using the label 'terrorism' merely conotes that we are some sort of unsuspecting 'victims'; it makes us look weak.

In order to survive, we must, at long last, get that through our heads.

I'm all for giving the Bush strategy a chance - who the heck wants to fight 1b Muslims if we can really shave off the extremists and develop a working model of an Arab democracy in Iraq.

But we should realize that Plan B has already been laid out and is ready for implementation if/when the time comes (ie a WMD strike on NYC/DC): mobilization, occupation & secularization.

51 posted on 07/23/2005 1:28:40 PM PDT by lemura
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To: Wolfstar

Captains Quarters
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005028.php

July 23, 2005
AQ Kills Muslims In Egypt, Belies Iraq As Cause
Al-Qaeda took responsibility for the horrendous coordinated series of bombings in the Egyptian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh yesterday, killing 83 and wounding hundreds. The suicide car-bomb attacks targeted Egypt's tourist business, which hoped to recover from the Luxor bombings in 1997 and a series of attacks last year:

The attacks dealt a fresh blow to the tourism industry so crucial to Egypt's economy, which was still recovering from the fallout of last year's bombings.
There have also been several attacks in tourist areas in Cairo in recent months, as Egypt prepares for its first multi-candidate presidential election in September.

The Al-Qaeda Organisation in the Levant and Egypt said it carried out the multiple bombings as a "response against the global evil powers which are spilling the blood of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Chechnya."


Where has Egypt stationed its soldiers in any of these areas? Nowhere. Why does AQ want to attack Muslims in Egypt if the country doesn't have any soldiers deployed to Iraq? Because Iraq has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda's overall war. This attack should make that obvious, finally.

Egypt has no patience with radical Islam; Hosni Mubarak sees it as a threat, and rightly so. Radicals killed his predecessor for signing a peace treaty with Israel and Mubarak has maintained that diplomatic contact. He has managed thus far to checkmate the radicals in Egypt, mostly through political oppression that has the deadly side effect of oppressing everybody, creating more radicalism. For example, Osama's number two man, Ayman al-Zawahiri, hails from Egypt and used to head the leading radical terrorist group there before it folded itself into AQ.

AQ antagonism towards Egypt has nothing to do with Iraq, Palestine, and Chechnya and everything to do with assuming control of the ummah in its entirety. It attacks the US and Britain because we oppose the radical takeover of Southwest Asia by the lunatic Islamofascists. Does that involve Iraq? Certainly; right now it's the hot front in the war on terror, along with Afghanistan. But to claim that these attacks spring from our presence in Iraq exclusively, or even our presence in Arab lands, flies in the face of all evidence. Where are the American troops in Egypt?

The media, especially the British media who keep haranguing Tony Blair about causing the London bombings as a price for liberating Iraq, need to start adding two plus two and quit getting three for an answer. AQ operations point to a long-term strategy of isolating and crippling Middle East governments that (a) oppose radical Wahhabism and (b) operate in a secular manner that maintains ties to the West, especially Israel. That is the scope of the war Islamists have fought for twenty years under different banners -- Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and now al-Qaeda. They want to seize power by force, cast a Taliban-style tyranny over the entirety of Southwest Asia and North Africa (to start), and bring the infidel world to its knees through the control of petroleum.

Why, four years after 9/11, does the media and the Left still fail to grasp this? Could it be because acknowledging this fact requires a stark choice to either fight or surrender, and they would prefer to create a fantasy through sophistry to allow them to simply go AWOL instead?

Posted by Captain Ed at July 23, 2005 09:35 AM


52 posted on 07/23/2005 1:32:16 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin
I have been to Sharm countless times.

Would you go back now?

53 posted on 07/23/2005 1:32:45 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Wolfstar

These Islamofreaks take a very, very, very long view of history.

Agree. Some here are always talking WWII when talking about this war. They should be talking the Cold War instead.


They intend to win someday.


I got 20 bucks that says they're wrong. Since 9-11 they've had 1 minor success getting Spain to pull out of Iraq. Oh sure they can blow up some buildings, but everytime they do this (particularly when they kill Muslims) they lose more support.


54 posted on 07/23/2005 1:42:03 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Click on the link and ask him.
This is an Egyptian Blogger. I'm something of a blogaholic.


55 posted on 07/23/2005 1:43:56 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin

Whatever...


56 posted on 07/23/2005 1:48:37 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Wolfstar
These Islamofreaks take a very, very, very long view of history. They intend to win someday.

1000 Years for Revenge: International Terrorism and the FBI--the Untold Story by Peter Lance

Worth reading.

57 posted on 07/23/2005 1:52:24 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Wolfstar

God have Mercy...
How could anyone do such a thing?
They have no soul...
Ms.B


58 posted on 07/23/2005 2:16:27 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (if it is not right do not do it,if it is not true do not say it.)
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To: McGavin999

Your post lamenting "those poor people" was the first thing I thought when I saw the pictures....

Why is it then, that other people can see the exact same pictures of Americans, and start celebrating and dancing around (like they did on 9/11)?

I am only ONE person that has never felt what another feels, of course, but I cannot imagine looking at those pics and celebrating...sigh


59 posted on 07/23/2005 2:21:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Wolfstar

Thanks for posting this since the 24-hour cable news networks have been less than forthcoming with coverage last night and this morning. I haven't checked recently.


60 posted on 07/23/2005 2:38:45 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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