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Pressure on U.S. to Use More Surveillance
My Way News/Ap ^ | 7-23-05 | Robert Tanner

Posted on 07/23/2005 5:56:54 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

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1 posted on 07/23/2005 5:56:55 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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Yeah, more cameras, that's the ticket!! Nevermind shutting down the borders, and other measures.

Of course the orwellian left is for cameras, this is one time they're not for "privacy".


2 posted on 07/23/2005 6:00:54 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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Notice that nowhere does the article substantiate the headline. No figures are offered that prove "pressure is building" for more cameras. Some mayor and the head of a security firm are quoted. And that's what passes for evidence.

This is base propaganda, not news.

3 posted on 07/23/2005 6:04:51 PM PDT by IronJack
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It's just more feel good BS. They are trying to convince the masses that camera's will protect them. London is surveiled and it didn't stop the bombers. The camera's are meaningless in the fight against the Islamofascists.


4 posted on 07/23/2005 6:05:46 PM PDT by marty60
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Right. And it's not like someone on a suicide mission cares if there're cameras around. It's not going to stop terrorism.


5 posted on 07/23/2005 6:06:27 PM PDT by bubbac
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To: IronJack
Exactly,maybe you can help me with this.
6 posted on 07/23/2005 6:08:23 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Oh, H*ll Yes!!

Don't put increased surveilance on the border points of entry.
Put them on 3 million public transit stations!!

Don't forget gas stations and hospitals.
Just please stay away from the borders!


7 posted on 07/23/2005 6:08:25 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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"Let's say we put cameras on all the subways in New York City, and terrorists bomb movie theaters instead. Then it's a total waste of money," said Bruce Schneier, author of "Beyond Fear: Thinking Sensibly about Security in an Uncertain World."


Bruce is right on as usual.

Another favorite quote of his:

If you think that technology will solve your security problems, then you don't understand the technology, and you don't understand security.


8 posted on 07/23/2005 6:08:43 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: IronJack
Notice that nowhere does the article substantiate the headline

I took note of that as well. Looks to me like the "pressure is building" from AP rather than anyone else...

Cameras don't prevent crime, they only document it, as Londoners can see for themselves.

9 posted on 07/23/2005 6:10:39 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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Exactly...there is no pressure. This is the dangerous, enemy within MSM at work.

I only hope one day that they get their come uppance......


10 posted on 07/23/2005 6:10:48 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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I want web cams in Howard Dean's office and the swimmer's office and home and someone to follow Hillery! 24/7 with a camera and mic. These people need to be watched.


11 posted on 07/23/2005 6:12:24 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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Sen. Hillary Clinton called for New York City subway officials to install more cameras, even though officials said some 5,000 cameras are already in use across all modes of city travel...

Uh...yeah...but unfortunately not one of those cameras in London leaped off the wall to stop any of the homicide bombers...whose pure, evil intent was to murder as many innocent bystanders going about their daily business while laying their own selves to waste in search of 72 virgins.

Not only did any of those cameras stop any terrorists, it saved absolutely none of those who were murdered by the "non-racially-profiled-homicidal-maniac-mohammed" either.

Senator Clinton is either an idiot, a politician pandering to a bunch of non-thinking idiots, or a supporter of the terrorist cause...

Or she could simply be supporting terrorism in order to advance a "big brother" type agenda.

Who knows? Maybe I'm the idiot, but I won't vote for her in any capacity.
12 posted on 07/23/2005 6:18:24 PM PDT by The Unknown Nobody (Have you had the opportunity to fight for your freedom or has someone fought for it for you?)
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Cool, more pictures of people getting blown away. Now, how about some preventative action, like closing the damn border, and deporting radical Islam.


13 posted on 07/23/2005 6:20:41 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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"but I won't vote for her in any capacity."

You wouldnt , but many millions of brain dead knuckle dragging america hating idiots will....


14 posted on 07/23/2005 6:20:41 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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Nah, that'd be too simple


15 posted on 07/23/2005 6:21:47 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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They seem to want to do everything but secure our borders and reform immigration.

What good do cameras do? The fanatic sets off the bomb, killing hundreds, and the police get a photo of a dead man.

16 posted on 07/23/2005 6:22:13 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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You wouldnt , but many millions of brain dead knuckle dragging america hating idiots will...

Unfortunately, this is the case. The amount of people that do not think for themselves in the United States is staggering. The mere premise of her statement (that installing more cameras will make us more safe from terrorist attacks) should be enough for any thinking person to immediately disqualify here as someone who can safely lead this country.

But when reality speaks, stupid people are out to lunch....
17 posted on 07/23/2005 6:28:40 PM PDT by The Unknown Nobody (Have you had the opportunity to fight for your freedom or has someone fought for it for you?)
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"I do not think that cameras are the big mortal threat to civil liberties that people are painting them to be," Washington, D.C., Mayor Anthony A. Williams said Friday.

Most socialist wouldn't think so either.

18 posted on 07/23/2005 6:35:08 PM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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I say we put cameras on all senators, congress, and any other officials houses and offices.

If they don't have anything to hide, then what's the big deal.


19 posted on 07/23/2005 6:48:46 PM PDT by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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Stop pointing out the painfully obvious hahahahahaha!


20 posted on 07/23/2005 6:50:20 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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