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Immigration Rising on Bush's To-Do List(Not what you wanted to hear)
L A Times ^ | July 24, 2005 | Peter Wallsten and Nicole Gaouette,

Posted on 07/24/2005 10:32:28 AM PDT by radar101

Worried that the tone of the immigration debate is pushing Latinos away from the Republican Party, the White House is working with political strategists to create a broad coalition of business groups and immigrant advocates to back a plan President Bush could promote in Congress and to minority voters in the 2006 elections.

The strategists say Bush is planning to make immigration a top priority as soon as this fall, once the focus on a Supreme Court vacancy has passed.

A guest-worker program is favored by many Latinos and by businesses, many of them major GOP donors that depend on a steady flow of workers from Mexico and other countries. The White House effort is aimed at satisfying these groups while promoting tougher border security enforcement. The latter focus is an attempt to mollify a vocal bloc of cultural conservatives in the GOP — some in the House leadership — who argue that undocumented workers present a security threat and take some jobs

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity; bush43; bushamnesty; gopoutoftouch; illegal; illegalalien; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan; invasionusa; latinovote; security; soldoutformerepesos; term2
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To: radar101

Illegal IS NOT a four letter word! You would think it was because it is avoided when the MSM is writing about ILLEGAL  IMMIGRANTS!

il-le-gal: Against law: contravening a specific law, especially a criminal law

Illegal immigrant: somebody who has entered a country illegally


21 posted on 07/24/2005 11:04:55 AM PDT by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: radar101

By being soft on illegal immigration, the Republican Party will lose 10 long-time Republican votes for every new Hispanic vote such a stance might achieve. That spells catastrophy in the '06 elections and the President is finished if the Dems win the Congress. Surely Rove is not this stupid.


22 posted on 07/24/2005 11:05:24 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: DoughtyOne

and if the feds would start fining employers who knowingly hire illegals then they would be forced to hire American citizens!
This is all reeeeely ridiculous and verrry elementary my dear, Watson! LOL


23 posted on 07/24/2005 11:08:18 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kittymyrib

Oh? He isn't? And your evidence is...

smile...


24 posted on 07/24/2005 11:10:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I figure the aim is to do what Daddy did.....give it to the Dems.


25 posted on 07/24/2005 11:11:25 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: kellynla

"and if the feds would start fining employers who knowingly hire illegals then they would be forced to hire American citizens!"

There's too much money at stake for that to happen. Let's assume ICE raided Tyson Chicken in Arkansas tomorrow. They'd discover 80% of their tens of thousands of employees were illegal aliens, who would promptly scatter to other states.

That would leave Tyson high and dry as well as all the people who rent apartments and sell goods to the illegal aliens. They would all scream bloody murder.

What the government will give us instead is symbolic bones like increasing the number of border guards. Being fully aware that more than enough will keep trying and will keep slipping through, thus making the moneyed interests happy.

You will NEVER, EVER see the kind of mass raids on American business that would actually produce results.

You WILL see America turn into Mexico in coming decades- might as well get used to it. At least they aren't Muslims- we can laugh at the French for their predicament on that score. They have an aging population like we do but they illegals who want to come to Europe are mainly bin-Laden loving Arabs. That's my one consolation about this immigration mess. Mexican culture is much closer to ours than Arab culture.


26 posted on 07/24/2005 11:15:07 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: kellynla
Unfortunately I think it's going to take more than fines. Company executives need to look at jail time for allowing the hiring of illegal aliens.

Wal mart was fined 10 million dollars but voluntarily added another 5 million. That shows just how little a fine means to a large company.
27 posted on 07/24/2005 11:15:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: EagleUSA
"illegals caught crossing the border, who said (paraphrasing) that they were there because Bush had said he was considering an AMNESTY PROGRAM -"

Anyone who heard that President Bush was considering an amnesty program heard it from Tancredo and his crowd, not the White House. President Bush has consistently said that he opposes a general amnesty.

Put the blame on the right people, the Buchanan/Tancredo fear mongers.

28 posted on 07/24/2005 11:18:30 AM PDT by bayourod (Cowards taunt terrorists from anonymous keyboards while soldiers in Iraq face the consequences.)
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To: cripplecreek

IMO, it just makes it more clear what type of an organization WalMart truly is.


29 posted on 07/24/2005 11:19:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
"I think 2008 is going to be all about immigration. Single issue. That's what will drive the next election cycle. "

The issue will be over as soon as the comprehensive reform legislation is passed, regardless of what for it takes.

Buchanan/Tancredo don't want the issues resolved, they want them kept on the table in order to raise money from the hysterical suckers.

30 posted on 07/24/2005 11:21:48 AM PDT by bayourod (Cowards taunt terrorists from anonymous keyboards while soldiers in Iraq face the consequences.)
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To: Euroam
Why no worry that the tone of the immigration pandering is pushing Americans away from the Republican Party?

Because there are enough idiots who simply vote down the party line to give to turds what they think.

Every Republican congressperson could go to a Republican Consituents door and slap then in the face, and that person would still vote Republican because they are "the lessor of two evils".

That's why the two party system no longer works. You got dips*t on the red ticket and a**hole on the blue ticket. Now, exercise your right to vote you free people!!!!!!!

31 posted on 07/24/2005 11:24:12 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Stu Cohen

Someone recently posted the comment that "winning for the sake of winning isn't worth much, especially at the expense of your ideals".


32 posted on 07/24/2005 11:26:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: radar101
A guest-worker program is favored by many Latinos and by businesses, many of them major GOP donors that depend on a steady flow of workers from Mexico and other countries.

The bottom line, as always.

33 posted on 07/24/2005 11:28:54 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: kellynla

Your compassion for legal Mexican immigrants is quite touching.


34 posted on 07/24/2005 11:31:51 AM PDT by bayourod (Cowards taunt terrorists from anonymous keyboards while soldiers in Iraq face the consequences.)
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To: Stu Cohen
Now, exercise your right to vote you free people!!!!!!!

If voting meant anything, it would be Illegal! Blackbird.

35 posted on 07/24/2005 11:32:17 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: radar101
Already posted here.
36 posted on 07/24/2005 11:32:19 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: radar101
A guest-worker program is favored ...by businesses, many of them major GOP donors that depend on a steady flow of workers from Mexico and other countries. The White House effort is aimed at satisfying these groups while promoting tougher border security enforcement.

The businesses want that steady flow, which results from low resistance, or lax border security enforcement.

The Bush Administration wants to please their business supporters by encouraging flow with Amnesty, while making futile gestures at Border Security to further placate and hoodwink those fed up "cultural conservatives" who are sick and tired of this game.

37 posted on 07/24/2005 11:33:00 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: bayourod
Your compassion for legal Mexican immigrants is quite touching.

Your compassion for ILLEGAL ALIEN Mexicans is quite repulsive. Blackbird.

38 posted on 07/24/2005 11:33:52 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: BlackbirdSST

Don't confuse compassion with greed among the open border crowd.


39 posted on 07/24/2005 11:35:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: bayourod
The issue will be over as soon as the comprehensive reform legislation is passed, regardless of what for it takes.

Which will result in more immigration laws that won't be enforced, just as our federal government isn't enforcing the immigration laws currently on the books.

40 posted on 07/24/2005 11:38:04 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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