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In Most Cases, Israel Thwarts Suicide Attacks Without a Shot
New York Times ^ | 7/25/2005 | STEVEN ERLANGER

Posted on 07/25/2005 8:48:32 AM PDT by Sabramerican

In Most Cases, Israel Thwarts Suicide Attacks Without a Shot By STEVEN ERLANGER

JERUSALEM, July 24 - Very late on Friday night, Israeli military and counterintelligence forces intercepted a would-be suicide bomber on his way to Tel Aviv, wearing a suicide belt, and persuaded him to disrobe and surrender.

The capture was a sharp contrast to the killing last week of an innocent man by the British police, who mistakenly thought he was a suicide bomber.

The Israelis have failed to stop suicide bombers many times. But they have succeeded far more often.

Among the differences in the situations faced by the two countries, perhaps the most significant is intelligence. Israel occupies the West Bank and its army and officials of the Shin Bet counterterrorism agency patrol it constantly. They have mapped every building and built a network of informants and collaborators. Many Israeli officers speak Arabic, and they often receive a warning before a bomber tries to attack.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: israel; nyslimes; terrorist
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If Israel has similarly shot an innocent foreigner, there would be a Security Council emergency meeting with the British voting to condemn Israel.
1 posted on 07/25/2005 8:48:33 AM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican

Experience does matter.


2 posted on 07/25/2005 8:50:31 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

..& shooting a known decoy does not matter, in fact, now we're finally on the scoreboard in this deadly game.


3 posted on 07/25/2005 8:54:15 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Sabramerican

I'm so glad that a newspaper with the abysmal accuracy rate of the NYT's has taken to pointing out how other professions should be doing their jobs.


4 posted on 07/25/2005 8:54:21 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Sabramerican

There are lots and lots of ways to stop suicide bombings before they happen. Shooting the bomber in the head is just one of many options, but it is an option that needs to remain available.


5 posted on 07/25/2005 8:56:47 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Sabramerican

Wow! The slimes actually writes an article with some praise to Israel ... of course it was only to bash another one of our allies.


6 posted on 07/25/2005 8:57:04 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: Sabramerican
Don't the Israeli's have some sort of device that sniffs out the chemicals used in bomb making? Thought I heard that somewhere. :)
7 posted on 07/25/2005 8:57:13 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland ("Consensus seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies")
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To: Reagan Man
"Israel Thwarts Suicide Attacks Without a Shot

Experience does matter."

Also, the Israelis are not PC. They are not averse to shooting to kill. They have a liberal media but are not saddled with guilt about other races and cultures.

8 posted on 07/25/2005 9:01:29 AM PDT by tom h
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Suddenly, the NYT is playing niceey nicey with Israel...


9 posted on 07/25/2005 9:01:41 AM PDT by oolatec
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To: Reagan Man; Sabramerican

> Experience does matter.

So does luck.

So far, it appears that the hapless expired-visa
Brazilian, who may not have understood the police
commands, was the victim of a scenario with extremely
long odds.

> Many Israeli officers speak Arabic ...

Israel has only a few foreign languages to worry
about. UK cops can hardly be expected to know all
the languages of the former Empire, much random
langs of people not even from a former colony.


10 posted on 07/25/2005 9:01:49 AM PDT by Boundless (Dems would rather lose the WOT, than allow Bush to win it.)
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To: crusadersoldier

Want to see the Times bias?

Look at the URL of the Times for the story.

See the last word just before the .htm


11 posted on 07/25/2005 9:03:28 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Sarcasm/Some here don't get it unless you spell it out)
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To: Sabramerican

Isreal profiles.


12 posted on 07/25/2005 9:05:31 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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I didn't catch that before ... incredible ... the slimes makes this one bit of praise and then is sure to slap the Israelis by naming the htm page "occupy."


13 posted on 07/25/2005 9:10:38 AM PDT by crusadersoldier
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14 posted on 07/25/2005 11:01:42 AM PDT by SJackson (On the second try, I got that jug off [the bear's head], but then I had a bear tied to a tree)
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Hasn't always been this way. Israeli Cops and Troops have had itchy trigger fingers for years. The only reason they are talking the bombers down now, is that they are catching them at the security checkpoints in the wall.

Israel has years of experience delaing with homicide bombers, while this is a relatively new phenominon in the West...


15 posted on 07/25/2005 11:49:26 AM PDT by Bean Counter
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"Hasn't always been this way. Israeli Cops and Troops have had itchy trigger fingers for years."

This says way more about your own ignorance and prejudices than it does about any kind of reality.


16 posted on 07/25/2005 12:48:45 PM PDT by ToveL
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To: Sabramerican
Regarding the New York Times, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Related thread
17 posted on 07/25/2005 3:28:16 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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18 posted on 07/25/2005 3:47:34 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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How often are you right, or at least not as left?

Did you enjoy last week's authoritarian Israel?


19 posted on 07/25/2005 6:18:31 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Sarcasm/Some here don't get it unless you spell it out)
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Israel occupies the West Bank and its army and officials of the Shin Bet counterterrorism agency patrol it constantly.

No, no, and damn no, Israel does not occupy the "West Bank", and it does not patrol it. Thanks to the Oslo "Peace" accords the Arabs have complete autonomous control of that area. Why the heck do they think there is a terrorism problem in the first place! When the area was under Israel's sovereignty, there was no such thing as body bombs and daily mortar attacks.

As typical, the New York Slimes gets it wrong. They helped to create the Apartheid regime of the PLO and created the breeding ground for this terrorism and now they blame the Jews for it? You cannot have your cake and eat it too, Return the "West Bank" to IDF control and you will not a problem, return it to the Arab League and you have body bombs a plenty.

Although it does not take a IQ larger than your shoe size to figure that out, It seems nobody in the Slimes fits the profile.

20 posted on 07/25/2005 11:31:31 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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