Mohammed was a Thug & Fraud - (must read! - one of the best, short, accurate biographies EVER!)

ALAN BURKHART.COM ^ | JULY 25, 2005 | ALAN BURKHART

[BayouCoyote]

Great read, thanks!

[EdReform]

BTTT

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

One correction:

The quote at the end is not from Qur'an.
It is from hadith, the collection Sahih Bukhari.
But that places it on a level of authority just below the Qur'an.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/083.sbt.html

But if you would like to use Qur'an on apostasy, you can use this:

[4.88] What is the matter with you, then, that you have become two parties about the hypocrites, while Allah has made them return (to unbelief) for what they have earned? Do you wish to guide him whom Allah has caused to err? And whomsoever Allah causes to err, you shall by no means find a way for him.
[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

The hadith simply clarify and expand this point.

[Gritty]

Muslims can accurately quote their texts and these justify murder and mayhem. Christians have to deny their texts to justify murder and mayhem.

'Nuf said?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

[CHARLITE]

Thanks for such a stirring post. I can't see how any Muslim can possibly defend these murderous exhortations from their own "holy Koran!" When we quote them as you do here, can they say (with a straight face), "Oh, but you are TAKING THESE OUT OF CONTEXT?!

Thanks again. This should be posted on all Islam-Muslim "religion of peace" threads!

Char

[EdReform]

Ping #'s 105 & 106

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

There is a simple answer to that: Go to the indicated passages from the provided links and read them in context. Then google them and read what Muslim scholars and critics say about them. (Read some of my other posts where I answer certain arguments.) Then you won't be caught short with nothing but a quote you read somewhere.

[longfellow]

Yeah I have heard that, but it's not true, there were muslims also in the religion. And basically 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of the other, both want you dead.

[humblegunner]

Allah & Holy Mo.. quite the team.

See my profile page! ;-)

[XR7]

I can't see how any Muslim can possibly defend these murderous exhortations from their own "holy Koran!"

Nothing holy about it.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Muslims would not be part of the worship of Kali.

[longfellow]

Thuggee (or tuggee) (from the Sanskrit root sthag (Pali, thak), to conceal, mainly applied to fraudulent concealment) was an Indian cult, operating from the 13th to the 19th centuries, worshipping Kali whose members were known as Thugs. It was allegedly a hereditary cult with both Muslim and Hindu members that practiced large-scale robbery and murder of travellers by strangulation. Induction was typically passed from father to son, with the women of the household being kept ignorant of the cult activity.
Though they themselves trace their origin to seven Muslim tribes, Hindus appear to have been associated with them only in the early days of Islam; at any rate, their religious creed and staunch worship of Kali, the Hindu goddess of destruction, showed no Islamic influence. Assassination for gain was a religious duty for them, and was considered a holy and honorable profession, in which moral feelings did not come into play.

AHEM, this is not the point I was trying to make, The point was even if they were red headed,midget sumo wrestlers these assholes want to kill us! 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of the other. (and I don't want to hear from the red headed sumo midgets now.)

[longfellow]

Here is another ...

Thugee completely transcended both religion and caste, normally insurmountable barriers in Indian society. The following remarkable exchange, which took place between Sleeman and a Muslim Thug named Sahib Khan, is revealing in this connection:

Sleeman: You are a Musulman?

Khan: Yes, most of the Thugs of the south are Musulmans.

S: And you still marry; inherit; pray; eat and drink according to the Koran; and your paradise is to be the paradise promised by Mahommud?

K: Yes, all, all.

S: Has Bhowanee [Kali] been anywhere named in the Koran?

K: Nowhere.

S: Then has Bhowanee anything to do with your paradise?

K: Nothing.

S: She has no influence upon your future state?

K: None.

S: Does Mahommud, your prophet, anywhere sanction crimes like yours; the murder in cold blood of your fellow creatures for the sake of money?

K: No.

S: Does he not say that such crimes will be punished by God in the next world?

K: Yes.

S: Then do you never feel any dread of punishment hereafter?

K: Never; we never murder unless the omens are favourable; we consider favourable omens as the mandates of the deity.

S: What deity?

K: Bhowanee.

S: But Bhowanee, you say, has no influence upon the welfare or otherwise of your soul hereafter?

K: None, we believe; but she influences our fates in this world and what she orders in this world, we believe that God will not punish in the next.


where in Chicago are ya. I moved to Aurora 3 yrs ago.

[WalterSkinner]

..someone has no aspirations to ever work for the State Department...

[elbucko]

LMAO! Now THAT'S funny!

[elbucko]

...a delusional paranoid schiz who got lucky.

And when one of them does get "lucky", millions of sane innocents become extremely unfortunate. It's the history of the World.

[elbucko]

An excellent example of the human mind being able to reconcile contradictions for the sake of earthly wealth and power. A picture of Bill Clinton carrying a Bible comes to mind.

[longfellow]

OOOOOHHHHHHH that is good!

[justshutupandtakeit]

I found the same article you are quoting from since your statement provoked me to look into it. Further evidence of the insanity of the Moslems though I presume they were into it more for robbery than religious reasons. Since robbery was the genesis of the whole ludicrous cult it was totally consistent with its past.