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1 posted on 07/26/2005 8:56:49 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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"Islam on the air as "a terrorist organization" that is "at war with America."

What is not true about his statement?


2 posted on 07/26/2005 9:00:01 AM PDT by roylene
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I heard this show yesterday and Michael Graham was on fire. He was reasonable and reasoned and he laid out extensive factual evidence for his conclusion that Islam, as an institution, has become a world-wide terrorist organization.

I wish he would post a full transcript of his remarks on his website.

Today he had the CAIR guy on his show to rebut his remarks and Mr. Hooper said NOTHING! He could not address the London poll that showed over 20% of British Muslims would not turn in someone they knew was plotting a terrorist act, etc. It was amazing.

Just on and on about how unfair and bigoted it was, with no real attempt to address Michael's arguments.


3 posted on 07/26/2005 9:01:00 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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Good Post, this was posted late last night, but needs posted again for more exposure. Our Freedom of speech is now called hate speech. We have all heard this before from CAIR, an organization with ties to Terrorists.

Thanks to Rep. Conyers and others of the Progressive Socialists, our Freedom of Speech has been compromised. The Good Lord has given us the ability to LOVE and to HATE for a reason, Our US Constituion allows us to express ourselves as to our viewpoint.


4 posted on 07/26/2005 9:01:45 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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Must be nice for CAIR that they have the WaPo to carry their water for them.


5 posted on 07/26/2005 9:01:52 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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We wouldn't need a specific expression of the right to free speech if all free speech meant was "saying things everyone likes to hear." That's why this whole "hate speech" thing is the biggest crock--it's a multicult way of getting around that right we all supposedly hold so dear. And yet we have this current fashion that says the right to free speech isn't REALLY a right to free speech.

Of course there's the old "can't shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater but that's not about free speech--it's not saying you can't use the word "fire", it's saying you can't create a panic that might endanger people's lives. When we get to the point where people can equate opinions they don't like hearing with yelling "Fire!" we are on our way to bannana republic status.

6 posted on 07/26/2005 9:02:12 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Dean won't call UBL guilty without a trial, but thinks DeLay and Rove should be in jail)
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Face of the enemy: Evil spokesman for the Terrorist front group "Council on American-Islamic Relations" (CAIR), Ibrahim Hooper

Mr. Hooper's claims are somewhere between disingenuous and just plain dishonest.

At a now-infamous Washington rally on Oct. 28, 2000, then-president of the American Muslim Federation Abdurahman Alamoudi shouted to a cheering crowd, "We are all supporters of Hamas." In the second phone interview, Mr. Hooper acknowledged being there but claims he did not hear Mr. Alamoudi.

In the media frenzy that followed, though, neither CAIR nor Mr. Hooper publicly criticized Mr. Alamoudi's avowed support of the terrorist organization.

Less than a year later, Mr. Hooper joined roughly a dozen leaders of various Muslim groups in staging a "sit in" in front of the State Department in June 2001. During the event, American Muslim Council Director Ali Ramadan Abu Zakouk "preached violence" by labeling the mass murder of innocent civilians in suicide bombing attacks as a "God-given right."

"The question of resistance to occupation is a God-given right. And the occupied people can use any means possible for them. They have no limitation," Mr. Zakouk explained. Mr. Hooper was listed as the contact person for the press release sent out in advance of the "sit in," though he first claimed he "did not remember" and later that he "did not hear" Mr. Zakouk's defense of suicide bombings.

Videotape footage of the event (provided by the Investigative Project), however, clearly shows Mr. Hooper standing barely a few feet behind Mr. Zakouk as the comments were made.

Without video or a published record noting his participation, it is impossible to know what other pro-violence, anti-American or anti-Semitic propaganda Mr. Hooper has personally witnessed. But there are plenty of examples of reprehensible rhetoric spouted either by CAIR officials or at CAIR co-sponsored events — any of which Mr. Hooper, as longtime CAIR spokesman, would almost surely be aware of.

At the Islamic Association of Palestine's third annual convention in Chicago in November 1999, CAIR President Omar Ahmad gave a speech at a youth session praising suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam." "Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam — that is not suicide. They kill themselves for Islam, " he said.

The executive director of CAIR's New York chapter has made similar comments that would likewise fall under the heading of "violence preached." At an interfaith event shortly after September 11, CAIR-NY's Ghazi Khankan started with the obligatory disclaimer that "those who attack civilians are wrong," but then he explained that any Israeli adult was a "soldier" and thus not a civilian.

Mr. Khankan rationalized as follows: "Anyone over 18 is automatically inducted into the service and they are all reserves. Therefore, Hamas, in my opinion, looks at them as part of the military." Driving home the point that it's OK to blow up any Israeli adult, Mr. Khankan added, "Those who are below 18 should not be attacked." (When asked about this speech — but not being told who gave it — Mr. Hooper said, "I condemn it.")

CAIR co-sponsored a May 1998 New York conference titled, "Palestine: 50 Years of Occupation," where one of the guest speakers taught participants a song that included lyrics: "No to the Jews, descendants of the apes." Mr. Hooper insists that CAIR was not a co-sponsor of the event and added, "I don't even know if that happened." But an e-mail sent out to a Muslim e-mail list the day before the event clearly identifies CAIR as one of the 11 co-sponsors — and audiotape of the conference (provided by the Investigative Project) recorded the anti-Semitic song. Even when given the opportunity by journalists to "call on the carpet" designated terrorist organizations, Mr. Hooper demurs.

When asked by The Washington Post in November 2001 if he would condemn Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Mr. Hooper responded, "It's not our job to go around denouncing." Asked by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in February 2002 to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah, Mr. Hooper called such questions a "game" and explained, "We're not in the business of condemning."

Asked in an America-Online-sponsored chat in August 1998 who was responsible — the terrorists or America — for the East Africa embassy bombings, Mr. Hooper wrote that, although he condemned the bombings, "a great deal of what happened is responsible due to misunderstandings on both sides."

7 posted on 07/26/2005 9:03:59 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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Michael Graham is the Freeper "suspects":

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450613/posts

I'm glad to see that the station is supporting him.

On Fox and Friends there was someone from the Heritage Foundation saying the Terror Imams should not deported for calling for jihad against the West. His thesis was they should be countered with the truth.

I will be following this story to see what happens to someone who does just that.


8 posted on 07/26/2005 9:09:52 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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About time any and all media call islam what it actually is.


11 posted on 07/26/2005 9:13:03 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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So, how long has the UK been "occupied" by the infidels? Is that their answer on the 7/7 attacks? Are they resisting occupation? I think not.


18 posted on 07/26/2005 9:21:09 AM PDT by PAMadMax (Islam is the enemy of ALL mankind.....)
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[[If WMAL doesn't feel embarrassed and doesn't want to defend its reputation in the face of anti-Muslim bigotry, then there's not much we can do about it."]]

Oh yes there is. You can start by purging Islam of the terrorists and hatemonges amoung yourselves. Then you can declare a fatwah against Osama Bin Laden, Simon al-Zawahri, and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. C'mon hoola Hooper, step up and let's see who's side you are really on. As a matter of fact, I think I will start a movement (petition) to see how many imams will step up and do the same...that is....issue a fatwah against these three islamic terrorist turds. In other words, a loyalty oath! Time put put up or shut the f$uck up. How many takers do you think we will have?


20 posted on 07/26/2005 9:28:26 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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He's telling it like it is...!!!! Go, Michael!


21 posted on 07/26/2005 9:33:02 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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If CAIR is trying to foment against Graham (actually anybody) then I gotta go with Graham.

CAIR is just trying to intimidate us from exercising our 1st Amendment Rights (at least until the Supreme Court trumps it like they just did to the 5th).


22 posted on 07/26/2005 9:35:05 AM PDT by TeaDumper
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Comments from Graham over here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450263/posts


23 posted on 07/26/2005 9:39:46 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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Hey Ibrahim...I believe we have some of your former CAIR members who are sitting in jail on terror charges.

First amendment rights? Yea, shut-up Hooper.


24 posted on 07/26/2005 9:40:23 AM PDT by milford421
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I sent the following email to Michael at the radio station this morning:

Although I am not a listener, it has come to my attention that CAIR has accused you of calling Islam a terrorist organization. If this is true, then I congratulate you for having the courage to speak the truth. Islam is not a religion. It is an ideology which promotes and condones a continuation of the maniacal beliefs and actions of its founder. There are peaceful people who have fallen prey to the seduction and lies of the Islamic cult and its apologists. Intelligent people who wish to believe in a higher power cannot regard historical fact and at the same time regard Muhammed as a prophet of God. God would never call such a self-serving murderous hypocrite to serve as his spokesman. The American people are not fooled by the rhetoric of CAIR or other Muslim organizations who are attempting to use the privileges of democracy to destroy democracy. The current sly attempts by imams and other Muslims to include Islam in all political and religious debates on civil rights have not gone unnoticed, but freedom and Islam are not compatible and never will be. Stay safe!

28 posted on 07/26/2005 9:47:59 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Anyone who has read the koran, knows that he told the truth, that's why the islam-a-nazies are so upset.


32 posted on 07/26/2005 9:55:54 AM PDT by fella (In law nothing is certain but the expense. - S. Butler)
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How many talk show hosts have bombed innocents or have beheaded prisoners?

How many Islamists have do so?

Now who is hate filled?


33 posted on 07/26/2005 9:59:13 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO because I'm too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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This kind of pressure needs to be heaped upon Islam nonstop until they take steps to fix themselves--thru either conversion or reformation.


34 posted on 07/26/2005 10:01:55 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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Hate filled?

The Koran is nothing but a hate-filled screed. Pot, meet Kettle.
36 posted on 07/26/2005 10:05:58 AM PDT by FreedomAvatar (Gravity is only a theory - Teach the controversy)
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...describing Islam on the air as "a terrorist organization" that is "at war with America."

Accurate analysis of the problem that will never be confronted by our political class. (PC)

This, of course, is to the be expected by those who we elect but who disregard us to the maximum.

41 posted on 07/26/2005 10:43:18 AM PDT by ElCapusto (For ENGLISH, press one.)
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