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These people are volunteers. They more often than not hold down full time jobs and make time for the kids on top of that.

While your comments are probably accurate, people do stupid things. I'm not sure assessing blame is necessary here.

I was very sorry to hear about this and wish nothing but the best for the grieving families and scouts.

........ people do stupid things. I'm not sure assessing blame is necessary here.

Well, actually, as is the case in military after-action analysis, assessing screw ups can save lives in the future.

As my namesake wrote 21 centuries ago:

".........there are two ways by which all men may reform themselves, either by learning from their own errors or from those of others; the former makes a more striking demonstration, the latter a less painful one."

I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner. I realize my post may have sounded harsh, but there is a level of responsibility here. Those scout masters, and I do feel for their families, would not have been in this situation had they taken the time to assess their situation, and their environment. This is a very necessary process for any group to endeavor in. Not just the military or the Boy Scouts.

Please do not think I am saying these scout masters are too blame for anything but their own demise. But their fault was not having a better sense of awareness of what they were doing and where they were doing it.

These children may not even take that lesson away with them. Their memory will only focus on the tragic consequences and and not the proper planning that should have come prior to it.

I am not so insensitive as to not feel remorse for anyone who has died in a tragedy such as this. I guess people like me also think about the whatfors and whys of a situation as well.

phoenix out.