Skip to comments.The myth of moderate Islam
Posted on 07/28/2005 6:48:23 AM PDT by Pokey78
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Islam must be entirely discredited and eradicated. However, if it was gone tomorrow, Muslims would simply find another excuse. They could decide, using al-taqiyya, to convert en masse to Christianity. (That would be a mess, wouldn't it)? They could subscribe to any or to no faith, and the struggle, usch as it is, would reveal itself for what it is - class warfare.
Why would Jews be more safe in the land governed by a holy book that exhorts its followers to kill Jews than in a land governed by those whose faith is based on the same God and scriptures as those of the Jews?
I just got an e-mail from Bigfoot, he says Islam is moderate and a Religion of Peace.
It may not have been Bigfoot, I think it's those wacky guys Tony and George pretending to be Bigfoot.
This is just more PC BS. You can't reform Islam. It is an evil ideology and in no way should be considered a religion. A muslim can't be a 'good muslim' unless he jihads on nonbelievers. I say Islam should be purged from society at any cost.
I don't know. It may be a matter of interpretation of the Koran. To many Muslims at the time, Jews and Christians were to be allowed to live in peace -- but they weren't allowed to rule. In many cases, it was that the Muslim rulers were more interested in running a successful nation than a strictly religious one.
But the fact is that during the Medieval period and the Renaissance, Jews were generally treated better by Muslim countries than Christian ones.
Damn, if the "Greatest Generation" had been as smart as this one, so many of them wouldn't have had to die and we wouldn't have had to bomb Dresden and Hamburg to smithereens! We'd all be living in peace now with "moderate Nazis"!
Freedom for islamists, yes. If we abandon PC, then no one needs to loose their freedom. It is only when we deny the truth and search grey-haired grandmas instead of muslims, that people loose their freedom. If Muslims don't like being profiled, they should stop blowing stuff up or return to their Muslim utopias. There is no place for Islam in modern society.
King Abdullah of Jordan is no role model, for he has not even been able to stop the "honour killings of women" in Jordan. Queen Noor seems as helpless aa a pussy cat trying to stop this. They are conrolled by the Islmomaniacs. There is no "honour" in killing anyone that you may think may have done wrong, but no one seems to be able to get this message across.
"Thou shall not kill !". In Islam, each man seems to think that he is judge, jury, and exectioner. And somehow these demons think that they have some "honour". The whole world suffers because of Islam. I wish that we did not even have to know about them and their evil deeds. but we need to get wise to this in a hurry.
Radical Islam, calling for overthrow of governments -- of course not. But a number of Muslims I've known -- particularly those from Turkey or of Turkish decent -- have integrated Muslim religious belief into a free secular society.
Regarding your Post #9. You misstate the issue. Yes, men by nature are evil, and evil acts have been committed throughout history (at least since the Fall in the Garden). And, yes, it is true that men have committed heinous acts in the 'name of - fill in the blank -'.
But in the case of those that have committed evil in the 'name of Christianity' -- they clearly did so without Biblical support (unless you happened to be one of those heathen Canaanites back in 1400 BC). As one illustration on how to confront unbelievers, I'd ask you to remember Jesus' words to His followers:
52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
The distinction between Islam and Christianity is that one Holy Book instructs its believers to lead a Holy life whereas the other book instructs its believers to kill the infidel.
And therein lies the inescapable problem.
Unfortunately, they could keep the name, but that is no longer Islam. In fact, why would they want to keep such a vile discredited name?
We've stumbled upon a spontaneous, albeit limited meeting of the MENSA society...
Say it, and say it again when people compare Christianity's
'dark past' with Islam past and present.
The DIFFERENCE is the evil Christians did/do is AGAINST the teachings of their religion. It is a SIN.
The evil Muslims do isn't evil to their 'religion', it's sanctioned and encouraged. It's GOOD to kill all non Muslims.
You DISobey on religion to do evil.
You OBEY another to do it.
Islam is, from it's birth, a cult of death murder and terror and the only way to change that is to REVISE the Koran. But that cannot happen, because every word is HOLY LAW. Including the commands to kill and destroy.
Few want to deal with that ugly fact.
The West will finally wake-up when they come to the realization that Muslim terrorists are Islams' version of the 'good Mormon couple next door'. That is, they ARE Islam's pious, mainstream members, and as such, DO receive honor and respect from their culture. It's the moderates who are Islam's version of 'Jack Mormons' or 'lapsed Catholics'.
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