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Frist to Back Funding of Stem Cell Study
AP ^ | 7/29/05 | Jo

Posted on 07/29/2005 6:08:02 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
An open letter to Sen. Frist:

Dear Senator Frist,
Many abortions today are performed in the 5th month of pregnancy, when genetic problems can be detected by amniocentesis. So when the pregnant woman says that she is sure she wants to abort the baby, now scientists can swoop down after the doctors remove it and take parts out to help old people with diseases?

Was Jonathan Swift's Proposal not so wrong, after all?

Sincerely,
FReeper Yaelle

41 posted on 07/29/2005 10:03:46 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Well said. Frist makes a seemingly plausible case, but ultimately I can't agree with his ethical conclusions.

The taxpayer funding is also very problematic when you consider how many people do not want their taxes used for this particular research; why not put it to a vote, at the very least?! Which reminds me...I wonder how the state-funded embryo research in Kalifornia is coming along?

42 posted on 07/29/2005 10:07:46 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: RGSpincich

Perhaps his change of position comes after reviewing another video.


43 posted on 07/29/2005 12:05:30 PM PDT by LGS
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To: wideawake

"Who needs Democrats when the GOP does just fine promoting ____________"

You can also insert Socialism into that phrase.


44 posted on 07/29/2005 12:08:42 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: mpackard; The Ghost of FReepers Past

It isn't about morals, regardless of what you think about embryonic stem cells....it's about this march towards a Socialist America. It isnt the government's role to fund this crap! Yet again, a Republican has proposed it.....more socialism from the so called "right"


45 posted on 07/29/2005 12:10:35 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Very Good Point!!!!!


46 posted on 07/29/2005 12:29:03 PM PDT by mpackard
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Is it OK for the federal gov't to fund cancer research, other medical research, or be involved in public health issues like disease control, or do you think all that's socialism too?
In fact, the federal gov't is far too big and involved in too many things, but there are still areas where it can be very useful without undermining freedom and privacy.


47 posted on 07/29/2005 3:04:37 PM PDT by foofoopowder
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Orrin Hatch was just on on Fox News / Special Report w/Brit Hume questioning advice the President received re: embryonic stem cell research.


48 posted on 07/29/2005 3:35:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: foofoopowder

No...not really. Where's it end? Do they find every research project for every illness known to man?


49 posted on 07/29/2005 3:37:10 PM PDT by riri
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To: foofoopowder

"Is it OK for the federal gov't to fund cancer research, other medical research, or be involved in public health issues like disease control, or do you think all that's socialism too? "

Nope. The FDA is bunk too. Dissolve it....


50 posted on 07/29/2005 3:59:14 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: foofoopowder

Yet more reasons why I oppose government funding...look at the disproportionate funding (politics comes into play once again):

The CDC dedicates more money to AIDS/HIV than to any other disease.

Cardiovascular disease is the leading killer of men and women (See "Adult mortality, Profile of the Nation's Health" CDC fact book 2000-2001).

In 2000, 710,760 people died from a cardiovascular related disease, and 553,091 died from cancer, yet 14,270 died from AIDS.


Data from the CDC Budget Request Summary 2004

Disease Actual CDC Budget

Arthritis $13,808,000

Breast and Cervical Cancer $191,965,000



HIV/AIDS -research and domestic $787,421,000

HIV/AIDS - Global (CDC wide) $143,720,000

HIV/AIDS - (CDC wide) $931,141,000

Total HIV/AIDS $1,962,282,000

Diabetes $61,683,000

Hep C $21,930,000

Prostate Cancer $14,062,000

Skin Cancer $1,647,000


51 posted on 07/29/2005 4:04:23 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: foofoopowder

I meant "nope" [its not ok for the government to fund] to the items you listed, not to the part where you said "do you think that's all socialism too".


52 posted on 07/29/2005 4:12:22 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: foofoopowder
What bothers me is the "government is the cure" attitude that he is participating with. There just may be a shred of legitimacy to the concept of using embryos that would be otherwise discarded, however, no one is stopping that research, only that the Federal government will not fund it.

I just watched the MacNeil Hour report on the state of embryonic stem cell research. There is plenty of that going on. California, Mass. Conn. private foundations. The complaint was that there is such a hodgepodge of research, well the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. I contend that only when you have competing centers of research will you get results. The next thing we will hear is that the United Nations should coordinate the research. Oh, and by the way adult stem cells have produced cures, not speculative promise.

53 posted on 07/29/2005 5:38:23 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Can anybody get Frist to say something nice about Strom Thurmond, then we can throw him under the bus. I admit, I wanted to see Lott leave, not because of the Strom remark, but because of his accommodations to Daschle.
54 posted on 07/29/2005 5:45:41 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Those numbers are amazing. Almost $2 billion for HIV/AIDS and only $14 million on prostate cancer! Instead of hearings on drugs used by baseball players, Congress should have public hearings about the root cause of AIDS: homosexual sodomy, with graphic descriptions of what that actually means for the viewing public on PBS. Rated XXX. Tell the public how many of their tax dollars are being spent for same.

A long list of diseases actually are self-inflicted (by smoking, alcohol, drugs, etc.), not just bad luck.


55 posted on 07/29/2005 5:47:31 PM PDT by foofoopowder
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To: foofoopowder

"Those numbers are amazing. Almost $2 billion for HIV/AIDS and only $14 million on prostate cancer! "

They really are, arent they?

It's sad because AIDS is almost DIRECTLY preventable, whereas prostate cancer and other diseases are related to diet and genetic predisposition.

Just imagine what would happen with Socialist Healthcare or rather Government Enforced Death. You'd have to pay for OTHER people's genetic susceptibilities and/or lifestyle habits (smoking, drugs, drinking, etc).


56 posted on 07/29/2005 6:14:31 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Piquaboy

I agree but we need to remember that even our President allowed federal $$$ to be used for some stem cell research killing more babies.

Personaly Im giving up on the Republicans until they are ready to take a Strong Morale Christian stand on ALL issues.

If They cant do it we need to find Some One who can.


57 posted on 07/29/2005 6:14:39 PM PDT by Tobor999
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To: Tobor999

Uh-hunh..
So what party are you voting for then?
Hmmm?


58 posted on 07/29/2005 6:16:36 PM PDT by Darksheare (The day the tagline went "Boink!")
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To: mission9; All

"Can anybody get Frist to say something nice about Strom Thurmond, then we can throw him under the bus. "

You FReepers really make me laugh, I need that these days with this pathetic "leadership".

I think we should throw Frist overboard too. I realize that senators rarely become president, but if someone is the Majority leader of the senate, do they have even LESS of a chance? I ask this because I wonder if George Allen might be a good replacement? If not, what about Coburn?


59 posted on 07/29/2005 6:18:29 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: Darksheare

NO one until I can find some one who is willing to stand up for Christian Morality. What about Pat Robertson? Maybe he couldnt win but he could force every one to tell us where they stand on these issues and then we could hold them to there word.


60 posted on 07/29/2005 6:36:17 PM PDT by Tobor999
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