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Terrorism Cannot Win: This is Why
Asharq Al Awsat (Arabic Paper) ^ | Amir Taheri

Posted on 07/29/2005 11:58:50 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

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1 posted on 07/29/2005 11:58:56 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Very cogent.

BTW, If one replaces "terrorist" with "Leftist", this article suffices quite well in explaining the international and American Leftist too.

2 posted on 07/29/2005 12:06:20 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Crush! Kill! Destroy the heathen!)
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To: F14 Pilot

Isn't odd that our president Jimmy Carter couldn't understand this? He more than anyone else, supported these people.

The Shah of Iran, unfortuately didn't understand that there are times when you need to covertly execute your enemies.


3 posted on 07/29/2005 12:10:02 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: F14 Pilot

Great article, and I agree with his review of Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses. That is one hard to read book.


4 posted on 07/29/2005 12:12:39 PM PDT by MadJack
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To: nikos1121

You might be interested in this great article:

http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/2/3297/printer


5 posted on 07/29/2005 12:13:31 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
With the advent of globalisation, Islamist terrorism is now able to strike beyond the frontiers of the Muslim world. But the same lazy mentality is at work. The terrorist knows that he is incapable of building an alternative civilisation capable of competing with the one he despises. So he tries to destroy what becomes the cause of his humiliation.

Agreed on both counts.

6 posted on 07/29/2005 12:15:45 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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marking


7 posted on 07/29/2005 12:23:12 PM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/2 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: F14 Pilot
Another apparently very sharp muslim.

If I may ask a question?
How is it that with such brainpower, I have yet to find a single credible explanation of why terrorists are able to
a) be indoctrinated from infancy on hate
b)Be ignorant totally about science philosophy and useful skills
c)Attend madrassas where only destruction and the Q'uran are taught and finally
d)Remain totally invisible.

It is utterly impossible to find them, change things or punish them?

8 posted on 07/29/2005 12:24:38 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: F14 Pilot

"All this shows that, in the long-run, terrorism does not work."

ONLY if you don't give in. Terrorist counts on the Spains of the world to cave in. France will too.

If they hit us we MUST hit back, 100 times harder and 100 times longer. Terrorism doesn't work because SO FAR the US hasn't let it.



10 posted on 07/29/2005 12:28:19 PM PDT by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
If one replaces "terrorist" with "Leftist", this article suffices quite well in explaining the international and American Leftist too.

My thoughts exactly.

11 posted on 07/29/2005 12:28:26 PM PDT by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small)
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To: F14 Pilot

"You might be interested in this great article:

http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/2/3297/printer"

Thank you very much for this. Every Freeper should read this. I truly believe that Iran today would be a properous world power had the Shah remained in power with reforms. The best excerpt from this article are this:

"While in exile Carter turned his back on the Shah and did not want to have anything to do with the leader who when celebrating New Year's Eve 1978 at his home - Niavaran Palace in Tehran, he addressed the Shah by; "Our talks have been priceless, our friendship is irreplaceable, and my own gratitude is to the Shah, who in his wisdom and with his experience has been so helpful to me, a new leader."?

Steven Hayward in his book published in 2004 under the title, "The Real Jimmy Carter"? writes; "Carter betrayed a man whose fall to the Ayatollah Khomeini on Carter's watch spawned the resurgence of fundamentalist Islamist terrorism that is now the War on Terror.

Two months after the Shah's death in Egypt, Iran's brave armed forces who were trained as first class troops with the best armaments but without their top generals who had all been executed in the previous twenty months, were the key factors in stopping Saddam Hussein invading our country in an eight year war with Iraq."


Jimmy Carter, if you recall, would not EVEN ALLOW THE SHAH TO SOME TO AMERICA FOR TREATMENT OF HIS LIVER CANCER. I will never forget that. The poor man, our true ally for years, had to go to Egypt to die.

Then a few months after Khomeini took power, he repaid CArter's support by holding our embassy hostage for 400 days.

I think you begin to see what happens in the world when we elect liberal presidents in the United States along with a liberal congress.

God help us and the world if we allow that to happen again.

nick


12 posted on 07/29/2005 12:28:48 PM PDT by nikos1121
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Carter also sent Ramsey Clark to meet Komeini in 1979!


13 posted on 07/29/2005 12:31:50 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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Yes Ramsey Clark that bastion of AMerican diplomacy who if I'm not mistaken is on Saddam Hussein's legal team.

Do you know the story about Rwanda and how the Clinton admin. and that world renown purveyor of American strength, Madeline Albright refused to support UN peace keepers to stop the genocide.

Liberal US presidents lead us into wars.

Is there any doubt...in anyone's mind what a Hillary Clinton presidency will be like? All you have to do is stand her up next to a Margaret Thatcher to show everyone what a hideous joke she would be a president.

nick


14 posted on 07/29/2005 12:39:35 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Ramsey Clark is wherever the bad guys are!

He is in Saddam's defense team


15 posted on 07/29/2005 12:41:34 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: nikos1121

Iran still loves the Shah!

yesterday was the 25th anniversary of his majesty's death in Cairo in 1980.

God Bless Him!


16 posted on 07/29/2005 12:45:12 PM PDT by Khashayar (Oh You Little...!)
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"Iran still loves the Shah!

yesterday was the 25th anniversary of his majesty's death in Cairo in 1980.

God Bless Him!"

I recall being a young resident at Cook County Hospital in the late 70s. One of my best attendings was an Iranian doctor. He was the gentlest, sweetest man.

It was during this time that there was considerable unrest and protest against the Shah mainly coming from young intellectuals.

Life was good in Iran but it was becoming too Western too fast for some and it was ripe for the Islamists to subvert this movement and instill the need to go back to an Islamic nation.

Like any developing democracy, sometimes the freedoms are overwelming and become the undoing of a potential democracy.

I think this doctor like many other professionals had come here to become citizens but they were also deeply proud of their Iranian culture.

The fall of the Shah as I recall was greeted with cheers and support from people like him at the time. There was much anticipation of going back to those simpler times when women were put in their place, a religion was number one.

I shudder to think what he and his family, back in Iran, have had to endure all these years.

I have not seen this doctor since then but your post gladdens me to think that there are many many young people there in IRan who think good of those glorious days when they read about them and of people like the Shah and others who represented the best of the Iranian culture that has roots that go back thousands of years.

Is there any doubt in our minds how a free Iran will be treated by this president? Contrast this with Jimmy Carter and company. The Iranian people are our friends. I would fully expect them to be a close ally once again, after they throw off the yoke of the current tyranny.


17 posted on 07/29/2005 12:56:07 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Khashayar

BTW I enjoyed your site. You should be proud of your heritage. I pray for your safety. I don't think there is any doubt that you have the support of many Americans if and when your people rise up against your current "rulers."

Your country is collapsing from within. Your economy once among the strongest in the world is one of the weakest. Your young people, especially the young women, are not allowed to pursue happiness as we do in this country.

There are many Iranians in America and throughout the free world. They must be agonizing by what has happened in your country.

It's only a matter of time until your country will be free again.

nick


18 posted on 07/29/2005 1:02:13 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
If one replaces "terrorist" with "Leftist", this article suffices quite well in explaining the international and American Leftist too.
Objective JournalismTM is an establishment defined by: The left actually does have its own version of Rush Limbaugh. But whereas the real Rush Limbaugh defines his perspective openly, is optomistic about the American people and people generally, has a sense of humor and is willing to discuss competing viewpoints seriously, the left's version of Rush Limbaugh is just the opposite. The left's version of Rush Limbaugh is negative, superficial, arrogant, and cowardly.

The left's version of Rush Limbaugh is cynical, bullying Objective JournalismTM.


19 posted on 07/29/2005 1:19:14 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Outstanding post. Many thanks!


20 posted on 07/29/2005 1:40:23 PM PDT by RichardW
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