Abortion is a completely separate argument and should be kept that way. If the embryos used came from abortions I'm 100% against it. It's like the difference between donated organs and stolen ones, to me.
If applications are found after successful test, where do you think they will source those from for the market demand?
Of course, they could use adult stem cells, placenta, and other sources instead but the focus has been on embryonic stem cells.
"I don't see the problem with using embryos created in the process of fertility treatments which are due to be destroyed anyway."
Apparently you dont have a problem with federal funding for this either, ie more socialism?
Hey...as long as it's proposed by someone with an (R) next to their name it's goooooooood. Baaaa baaaa went the sheeple....
Hmm...
With this line of reasoning, we should be harvesting organs from death row inmates since they will be discarded anyway.
Maybe we should look at the ethics of creating embryos in fertility clinics that may end up being discarded.
These same clinics will selectively abort multiple fetuses that result from fertility therapy since the mother to be intends to only have one child.
I guess these are babies that will be discarded anyway.
It's not a separate argument. If parents say they don't want their created but not yet born offspring, what difference does it make how far along the babies are?
There are millions, millions of people who would love those embryos people are "donating" to science. But the couples say to themselves, "We couldn't bear it if Mr. and Mrs. Smith in San Jose brought up our genetic kids. Far better we destroy them or donate them for experiments." THIS is the tragedy of extra embryos. IVF is a miracle, a blessed wondrous scientific achievement, that has made it possible for so many to become families. But let's not LITERALLY throw the babies out with the bathwater. Families WANT and wait on LISTS to receive these frozen embryos. Very few people choose to donate them to loving couples because they feel "icky" about others raising their genetic kids.
Isn't that EXACTLY the real abortion issue? People would rather the child created "didn't exist" than have a loving family raise it.
Your name is perfect, you are "hilarious" in your thinking.
Then what? Once you find them useful, then what? Demand goes up and then what?
Because it creates a market for creating more of them to be destroyed - a whole other industry for the abortion crowd to make a buck (which is what abortion is about anyone - not about "women's rights").
All slippery-slope deals begin with a seemingly benign explanation. The next thing you know, taxpayer money will be spent to entice folks to have these "fertiltiy treatments" with the sole intent of acquiring new stem cell lines. A pinhole in the dam soon starts eroding all around it until the dam breaks.
Your tag line is hilarious! Please tell me that it's real!
You're a brave soul daring to say such a politically incorrect thing at Free Republic. IF mechanisms could be in place to ensure that only those that would be destroyed anyway are used for research I fully support. Of course that's not the issue here. Private institutions can obtain those materials without any restrictions now. The issue is whether there should be federal funding for this research. That requires a higher hurdle and checks to ensure there wouldn't be abuse. I lean in favor but still mulling this and welcome rational debate with pro's and con's on this.