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Schwarzenegger pushes labor law enforcement
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 7/29/05 | Ryan Pearson - AP

Posted on 07/29/2005 5:40:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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Schwarzenegger said the new unit will focus solely on state laws, not immigration rules enforced by the federal government.

"Those are two different issues. We are not concentrating here on immigration at all," he told reporters after touring the Blue Cop jeans factory.

One Blue Cop employee, pattern-maker Josephine Rubio, said a number of co-workers are illegal immigrants and the employer didn't ask for citizenship documents when she was hired about six months ago.

"This company has many people with no papers, right now," said Rubio, a U.S. citizen who immigrated from Mexico more than three decades ago. Asked who didn't have immigration documents, she swept her hand across the airy factory filled with sewing machines and jeans stacked higher than a person.

"All over," she said, adding that she thought highly of the company and didn't want to lose her $14-per-hour job - high-paying for Los Angeles' garment industry.


Incredibly, This has nothing to do wth illegal immigration and workers. It's all about enforcing state laws, per the Gub.

1 posted on 07/29/2005 5:40:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 07/29/2005 5:45:01 PM PDT by gubamyster
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Paging ICE ,, Paging ICE..

Do you copy???


3 posted on 07/29/2005 5:47:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

I had hoped this was a back door, but evidently the Gub has slammed that sucker in my face.


4 posted on 07/29/2005 5:50:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne

His new stealth approach to re-building his image is a lost mission, imo, before it even started.


5 posted on 07/29/2005 5:51:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes, I'd have to agree.

I'm not sure a lot of people are going to be very impressed by the Gub making sure illegal immigrants in sweat-shops are getting a fair shake.

I don't think sweat shop owners should benefit by mistreating illegal immigrants, but this seems to be an example of getting your priorities bass ackwards.


6 posted on 07/29/2005 5:56:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't think sweat shop owners should benefit by mistreating illegal immigrants, but this seems to be an example of getting your priorities bass ackwards.

I hope you weren't expecting anything different.

7 posted on 07/29/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie

No, I think he's done a dismal job and will continue to do so.

You never know what some people will do, but I would have been surprised if he had taken a firm stand on illegal immigrants.


8 posted on 07/29/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
No, I think he's done a dismal job and will continue to do so.

OK, given that, I pose the following question, If you knew two years ago how badly Arnold was going to do and could go back to the recall which would it be:

Three years of a disabled Davis averaging his usual 6% annual spending growth, fighting for tax increases against the Republicans in the legislature,

OR

Eight years of Arnold, an average 9% increase in spending with no Republican resistance, and a 40% increase in bond debt?

Let's hear it.

9 posted on 07/29/2005 6:28:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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not to mention rescinding drivers license for illegal immigrants, which has saved more money than all the other arguable decisions combined thus far...


10 posted on 07/29/2005 6:45:19 PM PDT by seastay
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To: NormsRevenge
Those are two different issues. We are not concentrating here on immigration at all," he told reporters after touring the Blue Cop jeans factory.

Arnold's tour ensures that the illegal alien's employment, state tax, SSDI and other deductions will contribute to California's economy. Arnold's forthright concern regarding the employer's exemplary adherence to state labor law was alleviated.

/sarcasm

11 posted on 07/29/2005 7:00:51 PM PDT by afnamvet (Jet noise...The Sound of Freedomâ„¢)
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Carrie, your guy lost. He couldn't win and neither you or I can or could do anything about it. The Republican leadership pushed a popular figure forward and there's nothing we couldn't do about that either. Non Republican vote is something we couldn't be certain about how much would fall in Schwarzenegger's direction, vs Cruz Bustamante's.

My choices were to vote for Tom McClintock, Cruz Bustamante or Arnold Schwarzenegger. I did not want Cruz in there, and I voted for Schwarzenegger. I'd do the same damned thing if the vote were today, and I was presented with the same damn choices. We've been through this before and you're never happy with what my answer is. You never will be. Frankly, I don't care.

It would have been nice if Tom could have won. That wasn't and still isn't a reality based pipe dream.


12 posted on 07/29/2005 7:16:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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not to mention rescinding drivers license for illegal immigrants, which has saved more money than all the other arguable decisions combined thus far...

Given that a referendum against SB-60 was on its way at the time of the recall, the recision afterward was a non-achievment. Then there's this...

Schwarzenegger on Driver Licenses for illegal aliens during a January Interview with Univision:

We are right now in the middle of working very hard with Senator Cedillo. My staff and his staff. Everyone is working together. And we are absolutely positive that we will come up with a great bill. With his help and with my team's help, I think we will work it out. So there's, uh, really a good move forward.

Interviewer: How would you deal with more conservative members of the legislature...?

Schwarzenegger: Again, it's one of those things where we all have to get together and see that this is a good idea and this is the way to move forward. So, I am talking to my Republican friends all the time about it, and also to my Democratic friends. We will do it.

Washington Times, 3/02/04

"Our staffs have met, and they're working on this together,"

said Vincent Salido, spokesman for the Republican governor

When you learn the reality of Arnold, you'll learn that the man speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He's the most talented liar in politics after Bill Clinton.

13 posted on 07/29/2005 7:50:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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Bud, when Arnold became Governor the bill had already been passed to give illegal immigrants driver's licenses. You're aware of that.


14 posted on 07/29/2005 7:57:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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It would have been nice if Tom could have won. That wasn't and still isn't a reality based pipe dream.

That wasn't my question, which didn't even mention Tom McClintock. It was about the choice between Davis and Arnold. Sure it's hypothetical, but what it's really about is the NEXT election and whether you'll fall for the same crap. The question was meant to determine if you are capable of admitting that Arnold has been far worse than you believed he would be, even though you were warned and denied it, believing that what you were being told was merely rhetorical advocacy.

It wasn't. As soon as it looked like Arnold was going to win, I voted against the recall.

Answer the question or look like a coward.

15 posted on 07/29/2005 7:58:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/12/2/113824.shtml


16 posted on 07/29/2005 7:59:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
It looks like you need to read this too.

The only leverage against SB60 and the only reason the legislature rescinded it, was the over 500,000 signatures already collected by SaveOurLicense.org.

Yours is a meaningless argument. Answer the question.

17 posted on 07/29/2005 8:07:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Well, there actually was a choice between Davis and Schwarzenegger when you get down to it. If you wanted Davis, you voted against the recall.

One of us did fall for something, but it wasn't me. You bought the premise hook line and sinker, that Tom McClintock had a chance to win. While you still try to cast me as the person who didn't know a thing about reality, the reality is that you were dead wrong. No matter how you spin it bud, 14% is nowhere close to victory. You've been brooding about it every since. It's not very becoming to you.

You questions are slanderous. You imply that I thought Schwarzenegger wouldn't be so bad, when in reality I recognized his potential for downside and spoke of it often. What I also spoke about was a brown separatist who was a member of the same organization that Los Angeles' new mayor is. Both are very sympathetic to an organization that has pushed the Aztlan model for decades. I'm glad Bustamante isn't in there. I am capable of understanding how bad that would be. Some people aren't.

I rather look like a coward any day than an uninformed pompous ass.
18 posted on 07/29/2005 8:09:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Why don't you have someone read that article to you. It's obvious you can't.

In it, it states that the California Legislature had passed a bill giving illegal immigrants access to California driver's licenses and the sitting Governor Gray Davis had signed the bill. It was a done deal. That's reality.

Illegal immigrants were set to get access to those licenses just weeks after Schwarzenegger was sworn in. That is reality.

Your comments about signatures implies that the DL situation would have been remedied, but Schwarzengger pushed the Legislature to rescind the bill and they did. That is reality, and you're signature comment is wishful thinking. It may have worked out, and it may not have.

That is also reality.


19 posted on 07/29/2005 8:15:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh yeah! Schwarzenegger. I was wondering whatever happened to that guy.


20 posted on 07/29/2005 8:21:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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