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With Gipper's game plan, Rudy can win it all
Chi Sun Times ^ | July 30, 2005 | THOMAS ROESER

Posted on 07/30/2005 5:55:36 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: Uncledave
Giuliani really was an incredible leader for NYC on 9/11. He did do a GREAT job of getting rid of sex shops and the crime and prostitution that went with them.

I admire Rudy Giuliani. I think he's a good man.

Having said that his personal luggage and his liberal views would doom him in the primaries. I wish him a long, happy and healthy life.
41 posted on 07/30/2005 6:49:22 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Uncledave

IMO Rudy's the one and only repub who would wipe Hillary off the map.


42 posted on 07/30/2005 6:49:33 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: Sofa King
Attack us the same way we attacked John Kerry last election: as not being able to take a stand on the issues.

John Kerry was attacked because HE kept changing his stance. He was a joke of a candidate.

The worst they could say is that Republicans are able to accept disparate points of view within the party. And I don't see how that's an attack that would work, especially against someone like RG who has almost a larger-than-life image. But I guess we'll see how this all shakes out in the end.

Speculation is most of the fun!

43 posted on 07/30/2005 6:51:34 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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To: KenmcG414
I'd take him over McCain anyday.

Rudy is a quick-thinking manager who has an uncanny ability to see each problem clearly.....and the rare talent to get things done.

44 posted on 07/30/2005 6:52:24 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: BohDaThone

well there you go :)


45 posted on 07/30/2005 6:54:26 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: Uncledave
If he was a federalist, he could easily explain away his abortion and gay marriage stances by stating these issues should be decided state by state. Thus, they would be irrelevant to the duties of the federal executive.

Second amendment is a different matter, but he could beg off on that by punting to the courts. And it really is an issue for the courts.

What are his economic views?

46 posted on 07/30/2005 6:55:58 AM PDT by stinkypew
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To: RepublicanMensan

It won't be as simple as that. The republican party will be divided and full of in-fighting. Remember, we'll have to fight in senate elections too. If we can't produce a united front, we'll be seen as disorganized and without a message. If the democrats get a stong nominee who pulls the party together, we'll get slaughtered.


47 posted on 07/30/2005 6:57:57 AM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: cyborg

I'd vote for Guiliani in a heartbeat.


48 posted on 07/30/2005 6:58:26 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: Mulder

And what would Hitlery be? Think Bill Clinton only worse!


49 posted on 07/30/2005 6:59:03 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: cyborg

You're from New York. You have to admit that Guiliani was the best thing that happanened to NY, right?


50 posted on 07/30/2005 6:59:23 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: Sofa King

Rudy aside, I don't see any current candidate that will be able to "unite" us.

we are better off having fair primaries and debate, and all getting behind the winner, to stop Hillary.


51 posted on 07/30/2005 7:00:41 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Artemis Webb

Why would his personal history doom him? So he got divorced. SO FREAKIN WHAT. So did Reagan. People don't care anymore.


52 posted on 07/30/2005 7:01:26 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: oceanview

"Rudy aside, I don't see any current candidate that will be able to "unite" us."

We should at least go for one who won't divide us, then.


53 posted on 07/30/2005 7:02:41 AM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: HitmanNY

Thank you. You are truly a voice of reason. Hey Freepers pay attention!


54 posted on 07/30/2005 7:04:09 AM PDT by Right Wing Puppy (Bush is stronger than you think.)
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To: Sofa King

McCain would. Allen believes in abortion for the first 8 weeks. So we are 0-2, 0-3 counting Rudy.


55 posted on 07/30/2005 7:04:37 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: stinkypew

RKBA is not an issue for the courts, it is one of the inalienable issues. If you can't prove I'm insane, or a convicted felon, don't even approach me with more gun control nonsense.


56 posted on 07/30/2005 7:08:12 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: bill1952
He won't win anything in the SW or South and there it stands.

And Hillary will?

57 posted on 07/30/2005 7:09:35 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: oceanview

So if we can't find someone who is perfect, we should go for the worst choice?


58 posted on 07/30/2005 7:11:31 AM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: cyborg; All
He's also a gun grabber. Was Reagan a gun grabber?

He was not a gun grabber per se but a proponent on gun licensing and "testing". The more troublesome Giuliani record is on abortion. Even though he did little as mayor to affect policy on it, he uttered statements which suggested he was very pro-abort and would even give his own daughter the money to have an abotion (a hypothetical, as he didn't have a daughter).

However Giuliani is by far the strongest candidate the GOP has to fight terror and take on our Islamist enemies. Unlike Bush, whose alliance with the Saudi family led to disturbing P.C. moments...you can be assured Rudy will never take his shoes of in a mosque or say the words "religion of peace". He despises Arabs, a pre-requisite for anyone leading our nation, in my opinion. His record with Arafat, Bin Talaweed and others makes that clear. We need someone who views Islam as the enemy and not a "great religion".

But the main problem with Giuliani is on abortion. It is not really a close call. He needs to do a serious mea culpa on it, show that he supports the PBA law, etc. Even then it will be tough for him to win evangelical support without some serious outreach. (Then again, with Frist out of the way....)

McCain will be 72 in 2008, and even nano robots can keep him healthy that long. Romney is inconsistent and odd. George Allen doesn't seem to have the mental capacity required. Condi Rice is an even worse speaker than Hillary. And Mike Pence is a mere Congressman. So besides Giuliani, who else is there? I am getting concerned.

59 posted on 07/30/2005 7:12:38 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Respectfully disagree. The legislatures (state and federal) can pass whatever they like, but whether the legislation violates the second amendment is an issue for the courts.

Plus, the second amendment must have some limit (ie, nukes), which is also an issue for the courts.

60 posted on 07/30/2005 7:21:05 AM PDT by stinkypew
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