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The Definition of Treason: Why the US Government doesn't stop the illegal alien invasion.
NewsMinute ^ | July 30, 2005 | Kerry R. Fox

Posted on 07/30/2005 8:59:55 AM PDT by Borax Queen

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To: ASA Vet
The elections are essentially fixed in a two party system. The candidates of both parties in the last election were from Yale, from elite families, and vetted or accepted by the council on foreign relations. That is all one needs to know, if the CFR vets the candidate, they are anti-American and no one should vote for them. But, if both candidates are accepted by the CFR, then what is one to do?

Third party my friends, and fellow Americans, third party.
61 posted on 07/30/2005 3:17:22 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Borax Queen

Illegal imigration may be a problem of note, but not anywhere as serious as drug use and abortion right here among US born citizens.


62 posted on 07/30/2005 3:31:38 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Canedawg
"The selling of our national sovereignty and the implementation of a two-class, welfare-warfare socialist police state also needs... an effective PR campaign."

The article made sense until I got to this, which I would appreciate if someone here could explain:

The reference is to a Los Angeles Times story on the upcoming public relations campaign by the administration to "sell" the immigration reform package Bush wants and "marginalize" the opposition (i.e., Minutemen). The campaign is being put together by ex-congress guy Dick Armey and some other guy.

The story claims that the campaign will charge a fee from support groups. Those being recruited come from business and Hispanic organizations.

The link, sadly, cannot be accessed directly without registration. But, here it is anyway: Immigration Rising on Bush's To-Do List

63 posted on 07/30/2005 3:51:45 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Borax Queen
Pronunciation: 'tree-zun Function: noun Etymology: Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray -- more at TRAITOR 1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY 2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family

But that is NOT the legal definition in the United States, and the definition given in the Constitution is!

Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Article. III. Section 3 Constitution for the United States.

64 posted on 07/30/2005 4:02:08 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
...or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort

Hmmm. Interesting. Seems the Constitution's definition may apply as well.

65 posted on 07/30/2005 4:05:51 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: MamaTexan
." An official government document that certifies one's identity and citizenship and permits a citizen to travel abroad."

So a citizen exists as they need a passport to travel.. as illegals by definition have no passport which has been approved for entry to USA they cannot claim rights as citizens..I assumed you were trying to show that Illegals have same rights/ more rights -than citizens.
66 posted on 07/30/2005 4:21:33 PM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: philetus

"It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodeter- mination practiced in past centuries."
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Sounds like something out of a cheap, poorly written, novel on treason and sedition.


67 posted on 07/30/2005 4:36:28 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Borax Queen

I believe I hear the fat lady singing!


68 posted on 07/30/2005 4:46:25 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
[ It depends on the nature of the revolt. If we were to have a massive strike, work stoppage, etc., we could have a 2nd American Revolution. We don't need to be armed and cause blodshed to have a revolt. ]

Boy are YOU deluded... Why not a massive email hissy fit.?.

69 posted on 07/30/2005 5:04:00 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: doc
[ It doesn't matter which party is in power when it comes to the illegal immigration issue. Sure the democrats are worse than the republicans but are you willing to accept either negative? Vote principle. ]

Principle?... Boy the powers that be are so far ahead of YOU they've looped you on the track..

i.e Hillary(and Bill Clinton) are running in 2008. Al Gore or John whatshisname would even be better than Hillary and Bill.. maybe 5 patriotic republicans Might withhold their vote.. NAH.. you're all alone dude..

70 posted on 07/30/2005 5:15:37 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
[ lets hope the washington crowd does not play the big joke on all of us and continues with the invasion..by doing nothing.. senator Frist has been sending me surveys on illegal immigration which I fill out and return MARKED "NO MONEY UNTIL YOU ACT ON SECURE BORDERS." ]

You do know, the invasion at the border is on purpose don't you.?.
Its no accident.. The american people will do NOTHING and they know it.. Even here on FR Hillary trumps the illegal invasion.. Boy are them dudes smart.. WHO?.. dunno.. But the faux competition between the demos and pubbies seems well orchestrated.. and most even here buy it..

71 posted on 07/30/2005 5:35:33 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: gubamyster

Thanks for the ping, Gubamyster. The destruction of our national sovereignty is a tragedy in the making.


72 posted on 07/30/2005 5:36:31 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: EagleUSA

Actually, our whole political system seems like something out of a cheap, poorly written, novel on treason and sedition.

Our judicial system is a dark comedy.


73 posted on 07/30/2005 5:47:51 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: philetus

Amen.


74 posted on 07/30/2005 5:51:21 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Borax Queen
I'm sending this article to my two Senators and my Representative, and I will ask whether they are in favor of this "grand plan". I'm sending it to some people in the news too, but I doubt that anyone would mention it with the exception of Lou Dobbs.

BTTT

75 posted on 07/30/2005 6:03:13 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Borax Queen
\Politician's think we are dumb mules and locked into our harnesses. But unlike Jimmy Dayton's mules, we will break free and save ourselves.
76 posted on 07/30/2005 6:10:10 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: investigateworld

:)


77 posted on 07/30/2005 6:32:50 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

Ping


78 posted on 07/30/2005 6:38:43 PM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: janetgreen

I've recently "invited" newspeople to mention the CFR, etc., but they just sneer at me. Being part of the problem and not the solution and all, it must be hard for them to hear a peasant speak of such things...


79 posted on 07/30/2005 7:11:12 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: ConsentofGoverned
So a citizen exists as they need a passport to travel..

Maybe I'm clarifying unnecessarily, but I'm not saying citizens don't exist.

I'm saying State Citizens exist. "United State citizen" is NOWHERE to be found in the Federalist Papers, the Constitution, or anything else I've read.

"United State citizen", is in fact, an artificial 'person' specifically constructed to *trick* us into the jurisdiction of the federal government. __________________________________________________

as illegals by definition have no passport which has been approved for entry to USA they cannot claim rights as citizens..

Nowhere does it say you MUST be a 'citizen' of any kind. The only reason to become one is to have the right to vote or run for an elected position.

You can be a resident WITHOUT being a 'citizen'....

In fact, you cannot have 'inalienable' rights and extend them only to citizens. If we are 'all created equal and endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights, they must, by that very definition extend to everyone.

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I assumed you were trying to show that Illegals have same rights/ more rights -than citizens.

Exactly! Because they are NOT "United State citizens", they have all the rights we are SUPPOSED to have, but don't!

80 posted on 07/30/2005 7:22:17 PM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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