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To: hosepipe
"But if you don't know where point A and point B EVEN IS.. you have little change of getting there.. Admitting denial is healthy.. and takes courage"

If any serious FR can explain the current illegal invasion across the Southern border with the inaction of government that does not involve global cabals and corruption at highest levels PLEASE DO.. I have yet to see a coherent argument as to why the Federal government cannot act to control this border.

When you are making billions $$in drugs and human smuggling bribes of millions$ is not a problem.
20 posted on 07/30/2005 10:26:21 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
[ If any serious FR can explain the current illegal invasion across the Southern border with the inaction of government that does not involve global cabals and corruption at highest levels PLEASE DO.. I have yet to see a coherent argument as to why the Federal government cannot act to control this border. ]

Its explained quite nicely on many threads here..
There are many cowards afraid the govment will bust in their doors.. if they say anything untoward toward Bush/cia/fbi/batf which are all controled by Bush.. that is IF they are not delusional like all the Bushbots.. where their cowardice is masked by their faux loyalty..

Only a fool cannot see Bush has a malificent agenda.. They see but are cowards.. or as I said->> delusional..

23 posted on 07/30/2005 10:37:06 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
If any serious FR can explain the current illegal invasion across the Southern border with the inaction of government that does not involve global cabals and corruption at highest levels PLEASE DO.. I have yet to see a coherent argument as to why the Federal government cannot act to control this border.

(sigh)

If you really want to know, I'll tell you...but it involves disregarding a LOT of what you think you know about government in general and the law in particular.

First, you need to know the legal definition of

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legal
adj., adv. according to law, not in violation of law or anything related to the law.

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That seems to be pretty straightforward- now look at the legal definition of the opposed word, ‘illegal’-

illegal
1) adj. in violation of statute, regulation or ordinance, which may be criminal or merely not in conformity. Thus, an armed robbery is illegal, and so is an access road which is narrower than the county allows, but the violation is not criminal.

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Well of course armed robbery is illegal; it’s a violation of the 8th Commandment. But if a narrow access road is illegal, how can it NOT be criminal?

Because any statute, regulation, ordinance or act that does anything OTHER than describe punishment for violations of Commandments 6 through 10 are not laws that affect the people! They are merely governmental policies, and only governmental entities must ‘conform’ to them!

Our 'legal system" uses a great many of what they call ~words of art~. These are words with double meanings, or meanings very different to the common definitions.

One of these words is 'Person'. Person has 2 very different legal meanings:

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Black's Law Dictionary (7th Ed.) (1999)
person
1. A human being.
2. An entity (such as a corporation) that is recognized by law as having the rights and duties of a human being.

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The common definition and the first legal definition are the same. The second legal definition however, is used only if a person intentionally, with knowledge and consent, uses the law of contracts to create an artificial entity in order to start a business and/or protect his assets. Any artificial entity purposely created never has the exact same name as a living person

Because true law says exactly what it means and means exactly what it says, ‘person’ is defined even further.

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Black's Law Dictionary ;
"natural person" : A human being, as distinguished from an artificial person created by law.
"artificial person" : An entity, such as a corporation, created by law and given certain legal rights and duties of a human being.

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No big deal, right? UNTIL, you discover this tiny little fact:

Using the INTENT of the Founders in establishing our Republic, you will discover there is NO SUCH THING as a ~United States citizen~. All the writings of the Founders that I've read say 'citizen of the United States', or STATE citizen.......NEVER United States citizen.

A 'United States citizen' is an artificial creation, (a.k.a. *legal entity*, *artificial person*) of an artificial construct known as 'government'. We VOLUNTARILY place ourselves under the statutory jurisdiction of the federal government by claiming to be United States citizens.

The United States government was originally constructed to deal STRICTLY with the governments of the respective STATES....not the physical land mass of the 'state' OR the People.

Illegals have no *legal entity*, so they are still considered 'natural persons'. BY LAW. Natural persons are under the jurisdiction of natural, or common/civil law.

Here is nolo's definition of:
natural person
A living, breathing human being, as opposed to a legal entity such as a corporation. Different rules and protections apply to natural persons and corporations, such as the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, which applies only to natural persons.

That's why THEY get preferential treatment over Americans....they have no legal entity BECAUSE THEY ARE *illegal*.

It's also why United States citizens and their unseen 'artificial persons' are LEGALLY required to obey the unconstitutional whims of government, from Congress to the tiniest podunk city council.... no matter HOW much we know it's not right.

44 posted on 07/30/2005 11:47:51 AM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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