Posted on 07/31/2005 5:34:43 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
Start with the entire management team. Hire them back on a case-by-case basis into an entirely new structure. Put the criminally negligent on trial.
Or do you think there was no criminal negligence?
It sounds like there may have been in the case of the O rings but I don't know all the details of any of it because no matter how much has been published we still don't know it all. I doubt any of the people in charge then are still in charge now. Did heads officially roll? I don't know.
They are certainly looking like the Keystone Kops at times but how much negligence is involved is hard to say and I am still not in favor of firing anyone just for appearance sake.
"Would you be happy if a bunch of folks were fired but we still had the same problems? They are obviously trying to solve the problems. How many would you like fired now, whom, and why?"
Can you read? Or is the problem with comprehension?.
Fire the people all along the line, in positions of authority who ingnored the obvious with the result that Challenger was lost; and then Columbia as well.
The whole point is that neither of these were accidents. They were predictable and predicted. This current problem with the ship presently aloft was predicted on this very forum. That is, many FReepers (myself included)were of the opinion that NASA is such a hopelessly PC entity that nothing would change and a future shuttle would be endangered.
PC kills. Let's face it, the present mission is commanded by a woman who did not earn her position by merit but rather by her gender. No man with her backround would be allowed anywhere near command of a shuttle. Hell, back in the day the man who piloted the X-15 (Yeager) wasn't deemed fit to ride rockets in the space program.
Since nothing happens any more to people who fail miserably in ther jobs look for the carnage to continue. And look for the self centered zealots to continue to protect their silly faith (PC).
Among my many failings is also a dislike for A*holes.
Were the ones who were in the positions "all down the line" the same with the Challenger and the Columbia and are they still in place? If so, perhaps you have a point. If not, I don't see how emptying the boat will solve any problems. Are there qualified people to replace those you jettison just to prove a point?
If the problem is one of political correctness that is an institutional problem that will not be resolved by moving people around. The same problem exists in the military and I agree that it must be corrected.
As far as the gal who is commanding the present mission I agree with you there, too. Her observation of the environmental problems was a classic example of that.
My objection to your suggestions, well they sounded more like Keyboard Rambo demands than suggestions, is that they cannot be done with the snap of your fingers. Again, you must have replacements better than those you dispose of. Are they available? It is likely those who committed blunders were acting in accordance with the politically mandated politically correct culture.
The decision to launch the challenger knowing what the did about the O rings and low temperatures was a tragic mistake. Is the person who made that decision still in that position? I doubt it.
The decision on this last launch can easily be second guessed but it was made by a lot of engineers working together. Fire them all?
Don't bother replying as I no longer care to deal with you.
"Don't bother replying as I no longer care to deal with you."
It figures. One tires of defending the indefensible by calling others with whom he disagrees "A*hole" "coward" and "stupid".
Ever man enough to say such things to anyone's face? Yeah that's what I thought. Talk about a "keyboard Rambo"--well, you'd know. You call the O-ring failure a "tragic mistake". Let me guess: you work for NASA. You're truly mind-numbed enough to make a perfect worker bee in that corrupt hive.
And don't tell me who to reply to. You're not man enough to do THAT either.
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