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Sichuan Government Raised Warning Level - PANDEMIC ALERT
Boxun News (China, English Version) ^ | 31 Jul 05 | Boxun News (China)

Posted on 07/31/2005 11:33:20 AM PDT by datura

On July 31 (BJ time), Sichuan government has raised warning level of the so-called "Streptococcosis Suis". It warns the high risk of this disease. Government sent 50,000 immunity professionals to the region.

The message is sent through posters, before farmers did not know the disease until there were people infected around them.

By the time Boxun issues this message - 4pm (BJ time), XinHua News' web page still shows the death toll of July 30. There is only one item that was from yesterday. It seems that this warning is only for Sichuan Province.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; epidemic; flu; pandemic; sichuan; swineflu
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50,000 "Immunity Professionals"?

Armed, no doubt. I can't see this for under 200 infections reported. There is MUCH more going on than meets the eye here.

1 posted on 07/31/2005 11:33:21 AM PDT by datura
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To: datura

If they sent 50,000 to help...good God, how many must be infected?


2 posted on 07/31/2005 11:38:31 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

To help, or to cover? Either way, that's a LOT OF HELP.

BTW: How are you today?


3 posted on 07/31/2005 11:41:46 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: pbrown

Did something get out of a bio-warfare research lab? It looks like the Chinese government is in full panic.


4 posted on 07/31/2005 11:41:50 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. - John Adams)
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To: pbrown; datura

massive proactive response ,... let us see if numbers get either tweaked or explained or both


5 posted on 07/31/2005 11:42:03 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Dad yer funny

Exactly. I doubt if they get it stopped now, if it's that big.


6 posted on 07/31/2005 11:43:52 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura; All
Crosslinked:

-Strange new disease outbreaks--

7 posted on 07/31/2005 11:44:49 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe

Thanks!


8 posted on 07/31/2005 11:46:13 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura

"China Bans Media From Covering Outbreak

Last Updated:
07-31-05 at 11:10AM

Chinese authorities have banned local reporters from visiting areas where an outbreak of a pig-borne disease has killed 34 farmers, ordering newspapers to use dispatches from the state news agency, a Hong Kong newspaper reported Sunday.

A total of 174 confirmed or suspected cases have been linked to the bacteria streptococcus suis in China's southwestern Sichuan province, where farmers who handled or butchered infected pigs have been sickened in dozens of villages and towns. Symptoms include nausea, fever, vomiting, and bleeding under the skin.

Sichuan authorities have ordered local journalists to stay away from locations where the disease surfaced, and told newspapers to instead carry stories as issued by the official Xinhua News Agency, including the headline, Hong Kong's Ming Pao Daily News reported.

Calls to Sichuan's provincial government headquarters in Chengdu seeking confirmation of the media ban went unanswered." http://www.kfmb.com/stories/story.19080.html


9 posted on 07/31/2005 11:47:21 AM PDT by debg
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To: debg

So much for "transparency".


10 posted on 07/31/2005 11:52:50 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura

The Stand???
susie


11 posted on 07/31/2005 11:53:37 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: brytlea

Or "The Dark Tower"?


12 posted on 07/31/2005 11:54:47 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: Mother Abigail; RandallFlagg; Judith Anne; EBH; Dog Gone; ex-Texan; Jeff Head

PING!


13 posted on 07/31/2005 11:57:45 AM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura

I've not read any of that series....and now it might be too scarey!
susie


14 posted on 07/31/2005 11:57:49 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: brytlea

It's much like the Stand - only 7 volumes long. Some familiar characters -- Randall Flagg for instance.

It isn't scary - it's more about life long, long, after the avian flu hits earth.


15 posted on 07/31/2005 12:04:44 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: Onyxx

for later read


16 posted on 07/31/2005 12:11:58 PM PDT by Unknown Freeper (Doing my part...)
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To: datura

17 posted on 07/31/2005 12:14:41 PM PDT by backhoe (Anyone remember "The Stand...?")
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To: backhoe

I like your new tagline. Here's some more news:

A 20-year-old man showing bird flu symptoms has been hospitalized in Kazakhstan's Pavlodar region, where 600 domestic geese died between July 20 and July 30 as a result of an outbreak of the disease in the area.

The patient, a poultry farm worker from the village of Golubovka, was later diagnosed with double pneumonia and taken to the intensive care unit of Pavlodar's regional infectious diseases hospital in a critical condition, sources in the region's emergency medicine center told Interfax.

"All birds that might have contracted the disease from the infected geese have already been slaughtered and the poultry farm has been disinfected. Virus samples have been sent to Kazakhstan's National Veterinary Center in Astana to establish a final diagnosis," Emergency Situations Ministry sources told Interfax.

The above report strongly suggest the first H5N1 reported case in Kazakhstan. Golubovka is just 120 miles southwest of Kupino, on of the locations in Novosibusrk positive for H5N1. Both locations are just southwest of Chany Lake, where H5 has been isolated previously. These earlier isolates share regions of homology with the H5N1 isolates from Qinghai Lake, and all outbreaks have involved fatal infections of geese, which usually are resistant to H5N1..

A pneumonia case in Kazakhstan supports the rumors that the pneumonia cases in Tacheng, Xinjiang province are additional human H5N1 cases in China. The isolation was said to be for patients and staff with bacterial pneumonia, which is not serious or contagious.

The likely human case in Kazakhstan also lends support for detailed reports of human cases in Qinghai Province near Qinghai Lake. The sequences of the isolates contain mammalian polymorphism and were lethal in experimental chickens and mice, again pointing toward a significant risk for serious human cases.

Boxun reports on patients in Sichuan also raise the possibility of H5N1 infections. Sichuan is adjacent to Qinghai province and media has been barred from talking to patients or residents, strongly suggesting the fatal cases involve more than bacterial infections. The viral component could be Ebola, H5N1, or both.

The possibility of a raging pandemic in China appears to be more likely than ever and the failure of China to release samples and information should be addressed by more than just WHO, who have not been given permission to visit Tacheng, which is five miles from the Kazakhstan border.


18 posted on 07/31/2005 12:23:12 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: Jerry K.

Excellent point.


20 posted on 07/31/2005 12:32:30 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura

Note to self: Dont dig up dead pigs and sell meat to customers.


21 posted on 07/31/2005 12:37:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Is that like pork kim chee?


22 posted on 07/31/2005 12:40:56 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura
I'm fine thank you, and you?

Sorry so late in response to you, I've been digging around to see what I could see.

23 posted on 07/31/2005 12:42:55 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Dad yer funny

China will never admit to the actual numbers of infected. They can't.


24 posted on 07/31/2005 12:44:05 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: datura

This is getting scarier by the day. 50,000 immunity professionals.... Good god how big is this thing? Makes you wonder why no media is able to cover it.


25 posted on 07/31/2005 12:45:57 PM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: datura

I dont know...all I know is I read these diseased pigs were buried and some guy dug them up and sold the meat


26 posted on 07/31/2005 12:46:39 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: datura
The possibility of a raging pandemic in China appears to be more likely than ever and the failure of China to release samples and information should be addressed by more than just WHO, who have not been given permission to visit Tacheng, which is five miles from the Kazakhstan border.

Not good.

WHO is not generally high on my list of good guys - but the fact they are being kept out does not bode well at all.

27 posted on 07/31/2005 12:50:24 PM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: pbrown

Fine as well, thanks. You're right about the ChiComs - They CAN'T let the real numbers out. But can they stop it? I don't think so.


28 posted on 07/31/2005 12:51:56 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura
Looks like it's spreading. Maybe someone who can do maps can track it and we'll see who's country is next in line for the infection.

Link

I did an FR search and didn't find this story. If it's already been posted, I apologize.

29 posted on 07/31/2005 12:57:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: datura

Even if it's as bad as all that, don't we have to go through "epidemic" before we get to "pandemic"?

I mean, 100 years ago epidemics killed a million people that no one outside the immediate area even knew about.


30 posted on 07/31/2005 12:57:58 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: pbrown
Sichuan Province, located in southwest China, is one of the largest and most inaccessible provinces in the nation. This province covers an area of 485,000 kilometers (187,000 miles) and boasts the largest population in China, with 87 million people.

They may need that many professionals to cover this kind of an outbreak considering the layout and population.

31 posted on 07/31/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: datura
But can they stop it? I don't think so.

Neither do I.

32 posted on 07/31/2005 12:58:54 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: BurbankKarl

I read that too - the ChiCom gov't doesn't pay the farmers for their loss, so in turn they dig them back up and sell what they can.

Unlike kim chee, they don't let it ferment.

The other problem is that this disease infects birds, as well as pigs. 1918 all over again. Flies - especially blow flies - also carry this new disease. So if a truck picks up a load of dead pigs or birds (birds they tend to merely dispose of in LAKES (??????)), the flies get on the carcasses and then spread the disease.

To me, the genie is out of the bottle.


33 posted on 07/31/2005 1:02:03 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: EBH
They may need that many professionals to cover this kind of an outbreak considering the layout and population.

I believe it is much worse than we're hearing. China is such a closed society that if they are sending out 50,000, and are admitting to that number, we could be in for a real shocker when the numbers start to come out.

Remember Chernobyl? The Soviets kept saying it wasn't bad...till the numbers had grown so large, they could no longer keep their secret.

34 posted on 07/31/2005 1:03:00 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: EBH

Plus, you've got Kazahkstan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, North Korea (they say they stopped it - (right), India, southern Russia, Mongolia, and more.


35 posted on 07/31/2005 1:06:00 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura

Can someone clarify exactly what streptococcus suis is? Strep is bad new any way you look at it.


36 posted on 07/31/2005 1:06:15 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: ArmyTeach

OK, I read on and found the specifics...it pays to read first.


37 posted on 07/31/2005 1:08:50 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: pbrown

50,000. That's one third of our peak combat deployment to Iraq.

For trying to put an infectious disease back into the lab, I think Beijing must be in a panic - BIG TIME.


38 posted on 07/31/2005 1:09:05 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: dd5339; cavtrooper21

ping...read it all to get to the 'english' info down in the thread.


39 posted on 07/31/2005 1:10:45 PM PDT by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: datura

After reading this thread the Pork Roast we were going to have for dinner is now going into the freezer.......


40 posted on 07/31/2005 1:11:58 PM PDT by cmsgop ( I DON'T C.A.I.R. !!!!!!!!!)
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To: ArmyTeach

"streptococcus suis" is completely fictional.

The genetics of this are a cross between Ebola SZ and H5N1. From the sounds of it, the "splicing" is rather crudely done, but it functions.

It is the human polymorphism in the H5N1 that gives it the additional lethality in mammals, and now with the swine recombination it transmits easier.

After this is all said and done, I think we need to take the chemistry/biology tools away from the ChiComs. They don't appear to be trustworthy with their toys.


41 posted on 07/31/2005 1:15:56 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura

"They CAN'T let the real numbers out. But can they stop it? I don't think so"

That's were the 50,000 immunity professionals come in, aka "Cleaners" you know what I mean?


42 posted on 07/31/2005 1:18:21 PM PDT by DAC22
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To: datura
M-O-O-N, that spells plague.
43 posted on 07/31/2005 1:19:08 PM PDT by mware
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To: DAC22

I wonder if the immune professionals are inmates from their prisons???


44 posted on 07/31/2005 1:20:23 PM PDT by mware
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To: datura

Big time. That's what's so all fire scary. If they are that frieghtened...how bad must it really be?


45 posted on 07/31/2005 1:20:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Thanks for posting that link. Here's another article from Recombinomics - look at the date, and what we're talking about!


Commentary

Pandemic Influenza as a Bioweapon

Recombinomics Commentary
February 23, 2005

>> "Anyone who is honest about this has to admit that if al Qaeda launches a spectacular biological attack which could cause contagious disease to be spread, no entity in the world is prepared for it," Noble said. "Not the U.S., not Europe, not Asia, not Africa." <<

Since the WSN/33 situation in Korea provides some valuable insight into detection and reporting of bird or human flu, and wire services are carrying stories about biologic attacks by terrorists causing a contagious disease, it is worth reviewing some of the lessons learned from the swine WSN/33 infections.

If pandemic flu is the contagious disease of choice, selection of WSN/33 at this time would offer some advantages. It is already transmissible from human-to-human, has been shown to be lethal in mice, has mutations in NA and PB2 that increase lethality, is widely available, and could be used without genetic manipulation.

As has been seen in Korea, introduction of the agent into pigs would allow it to spread almost undetected. Verification of its spread (or existence) has proven to be exceedingly difficult. Movement from swine to humans has not been reported and all reported isolates are missing the PB2 mutation. This may be due to a survival selection offered by recombining or reassorting with prevalent H9N2 subtypes. Most of the swine isolates have an avian PB2, but even the isolates that have half of a human PB2 have the 3' half of the human gene replaced with avian sequences. Thus, the results from the Korean swine may indicate that starting with a very lethal virus has disadvantages in that a less lethal virus will emerge virtually undetected.

A second choice would be the H5N1 currently causing the high case fatality rate in Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia. This version would be even more available, since it is excreted in large amounts by asymptomatic ducks, and is present in multiple organs in fatal infections. Although human-to-human transmission of H5N1 is limited, infecting a few international travelers would generate worldwide panic if these passengers became ill outside of areas with indigenous H5N1. Use of infected currency as a vector for transmission has been widely discussed.

A third approach would involve genetic manipulation. Creating an efficiently transmitted H5N1 would be relatively easy. Swapping a human receptor binding domain from a human flu virus into an H5 backbone would improve transmission efficiency and such an agent would quickly disseminate worldwide. Of course such an agent would be hard to control, and most unvaccinated people would be at risk. Since influenza evolves via recombination, implementation of an efficient laboratiry strain might be eclipsed by a natural version, and there would be uncertainty over the origins of such an agent.

Thus, like WSN/33 in Korean swine, taking credit for such a biologic attack may be difficult, since most countries appear to be unable to even determine if such an attack has happened.


46 posted on 07/31/2005 1:27:00 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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To: datura
We know China didn't have the virus till their peackeeping mission in Angola in '04, as was discussed on a previous thread.

Transmission of these exotic diseases seems to be pigs, birds, mosquitoes. Some are human to human transmission...Air-born???

An eight year old girl dies in Indonesia of Avian flu today. Here's the story.

Here

47 posted on 07/31/2005 1:42:29 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: datura

"They don't appear to be trustworthy with their toys."
Ditto that.



48 posted on 07/31/2005 1:43:19 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: datura

Streptococcus suis


Streptococcus suis, an important pathogen of pigs, is endemic in most pig-rearing countries of the world, including the UK. The organism is carried in the tonsils of pigs, and pig-to-pig spread is mainly by nose-to-nose contact or by aerosol over short distances. Human infection with Streptococcus suis is rarely reported and only about 150 cases have been reported from the world literature. Two serotypes have been implicated in human infections; S. suis type 2, an established zoonotic human pathogen and more recently S. suis type 14. Human infection may be severe, with meningitis, septicaemia, endocarditis, and deafness. People in direct contact with pigs or pig products are considered at risk. Asplenic patients are known to be at greater risk from the disease. Human infection is thought to occur mainly via cuts or abrasions when handling infected carcasses.


49 posted on 07/31/2005 1:46:59 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure!)
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To: pbrown; ArmyTeach
My big question is how about transmission in packaging materials or general merchandise? Shipping containers? Tourists (asymptomatic)? Some of these new Ebola strains have incubation times of over 120 days. Hard to trace infection vectors with incubation times of 4 months.
50 posted on 07/31/2005 1:50:24 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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