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Condi Rice Takes Charge; Nudges Past Rumsfeld
NewsMax ^ | 7/31/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 07/31/2005 2:29:15 PM PDT by wagglebee

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She's doing awesome!
1 posted on 07/31/2005 2:29:15 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Could it be we now have two horses pulling in the same direction?


2 posted on 07/31/2005 2:30:26 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: wagglebee

I got no complaints.


3 posted on 07/31/2005 2:31:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Sec Def Rumseld is probably glad to have the help. Damn Sure "Gen" Powell didn't do anything to help!


4 posted on 07/31/2005 2:32:35 PM PDT by zzen01 (so there!)
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To: wagglebee
Just week’s after taking her new office
5 posted on 07/31/2005 2:38:35 PM PDT by Clara Lou (In this order: Read. Post comment.)
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To: zzen01

I suspect you are correct. Secretary Rumsfeld, seems to me, learns from reality as well as any. For a high horsepower fighter pilot egotist this is exceptional. He is not afraid to see that he has been wrong. This is Courage.

Secretary Rice is an absolute gem. Been saying so for years. Check my back posts.


6 posted on 07/31/2005 2:42:50 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: wagglebee

Maybe she will be a presidential contender in the near future?


7 posted on 07/31/2005 2:47:47 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: wagglebee

Rumsfeld didn't finish the war 'with the army he has'. The 'struggle' has moved to the diplomatic front. Bush wants Rice to take the lead.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 2:48:22 PM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: ex-snook

Rummy did a great job. He defeated Saddam's Army and drove him from power. The war has been over for two years. This is just mopping up, ane everybody knew it would take a while. We have enough of the MSM trying to spin Iraq as a quagmire without any help from FReepers.


9 posted on 07/31/2005 2:53:18 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Rockitz
Maybe she will be a presidential contender in the near future?

Check out Americans for Rice


10 posted on 07/31/2005 2:53:40 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: balch3
The war has been over for two years. "

Sorry. The war isn't over until the enemy stops fighting and our troops are not being killed.

11 posted on 07/31/2005 3:01:05 PM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: Iris7

I agree with your assessment of Sec Rumsfeld. When he became Sec of Def, he butted heads with the Army generals because they did not transform their service in line with the DoD plans. This tense relationship hurted the initial phases of the ground war in Iraq, The Army wanted more troops and spares before attacking Iraq. Rumsfeld felt that the generals were too cautious and ignoring the miracles of computer management and communications technology which does not require many troops to fight battles nor long logistics trains. He was partially correct, but his technique of handling opposition was very corporate. He kept firing the generals who supported more troops until he got one that said yes. (This is typical in corporate America, if the CEO wants to structure a deal and if the lawyer or accountant said it was illegal or not possible, hardheaded CEO's kept firing them until he got one that said yes). The battle for Iraq certified Rumsfeld faith in technology over caution and large numbers, but the occupation of Iraq proved that the generals' propensity to have more men and spares just in case things don't go right was equally valid. I think the professional soldiers and Rumsfeld learned from each other. I will criticize Rumsfeld initial corporate viewpoint of war and technology, but I will admire him for learning very quickly, and striking the right balance between pushing GWB's needs and listening to his generals a bit more. Unlike the Democrat critics, I do not think he should resign. Rumsfeld has learned and from it he is the most experienced Secretary of Defense we ever had.


12 posted on 07/31/2005 3:07:30 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Clara Lou
That depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
13 posted on 07/31/2005 3:13:58 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: zzen01

Damn Sure "Gen" Powell didn't do anything to help!
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Except leak to the Washington Post...


14 posted on 07/31/2005 3:14:27 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/janicerogersbrown.htm)
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To: balch3
The war has been over for two years. This is just mopping up

The war didn't start two years ago and it's not over yet. The war has been going on since Saddam invaded Kuwait. It has been low intensity at times but it has never gone away. Pilots have been flying combat missions over Iraqi soil for over a decade. And at any rate, Iraq is just one theatre in the War on Terror. The Iraq war itself is not over, nor is the larger one. This is not spin- simply reality.

15 posted on 07/31/2005 3:15:37 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: peyton randolph
"Maybe she will be a presidential contender in the near future?"

My only reservation is the abortion issue. Everything else I have heard from her indicates that she would be a serious contender for President.
16 posted on 07/31/2005 3:32:54 PM PDT by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: onyx

More good news on Condi!


17 posted on 07/31/2005 4:25:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Mr and Mrs Wilson III were both working UNDERtheCOVERS!)
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To: wagglebee

How is she doing cleaning out the State Department? I don't think I've seen anything on that in a while.


18 posted on 07/31/2005 4:27:22 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Fee
Re: "I will criticize Rumsfeld initial corporate viewpoint of war and technology, but I will admire him for learning very quickly, and striking the right balance between pushing GWB's needs and listening to his generals a bit more."

Well said, but I can't criticize him on his viewpoints regarding his assessments of the war forced upon us nor his desire to create a leaner meaner fighting machine (military).

19 posted on 07/31/2005 4:28:04 PM PDT by Cribb (Home of Conservatism - America's middle class.)
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To: wagglebee

Doubt she did anything at all to diss Rumsfeld.


20 posted on 07/31/2005 4:29:18 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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