Let's Have No More Monkey Trials - To teach faith as science is to undermine both

Time Magazine ^ | Monday, Aug. 01, 2005 | CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

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By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

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[BibChr]

When I saw the subtitle, To teach faith as science is to undermine both, I thought it might be a critique of the Darwinian establishment that has done just that for decades.

Disappointing.

Dan
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[MEGoody]

But nothing could do more to undermine this most salutary restoration than the new and gratuitous attempts to invade science, and most particularly evolution, with religion.

Nothing could do more to undermine the integrity of science than to undermine and suppress questions regarding the theory of evolution.

Oh, they're already doing that.

Nuff said.

[BenLurkin]

The real problem is that we are being taught science as faith.

[trisham]

I usually like Krauthammer, but he's out of his element here.

[narby]

The real problem is that we are being taught science as faith.

If you're talking about the press releases of Green Peace, then you have a point.

If you're talking about evolution, then you don't.

[ICE-FLYER]

What a laugh. They see nothing wrong with teaching THEORY as FACT. What is undermined there? Scientific integrity, thats what.

The Evolution THEORY is just that, stop teaching it as rote fact and I do not have near the problem with it.

[timdel33]

Both sides of the argument is right..... They are trying to compare apples to oranges.... One is spirit and one is flesh..
Figure it out....

[PatrickHenry]

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[RegulatorCountry]

"To teach faith as science is to undermine the very idea of science"

... which is as good an argument against evolution as in favor of it.

[kharaku]

To assume that faith is scientifically impossible is both stupid and faithless.

Anyway i'm off to chase a guy that spontanously morphed from an ape.

[narby]

I usually like Krauthammer, but he's out of his element here.

You do know that Krauthammer is an MD don't you?

I think he's right in his element. A well spoken conservative that knows his science.

[narby]

The Evolution THEORY is just that, stop teaching it as rote fact and I do not have near the problem with it.

They teach music as THEORY too. You gonna claim that music may not exist.

Your problem is you either don't know what a scientific theory is. Or you've been told, but you've ignored it.

It's probably the latter. Creationists are remarkably impervious to information.

[narby]

Anyway i'm off to chase a guy that spontanously morphed from an ape.

If that's your understanding of evolution, then I see why you're confused.

[narby]

Brilliant Statement: "Faith can and should be proclaimed from every mountaintop and city square. But it has no place in science class. To impose it on the teaching of evolution is not just to invite ridicule but to earn it."

[Ichneumon]

Anyway i'm off to chase a guy that spontanously morphed from an ape.

Why would you want to chase a cartoonlike straw-man misrepresentation of what evolutionary biology actually maintains?

Folks, if you're going to try to critique science -- or even ridicule it -- it would help if you actually learned at least a little bit of it, so that your remarks are vaguely on target, instead of just expressions of your own misunderstanding.

[PatrickHenry]

Your problem is you either don't know what a scientific theory is. Or you've been told, but you've ignored it. It's probably the latter. Creationists are remarkably impervious to information.

Ah, but we're here to help. From The List-O-Links:
The scientific method.
What's a Scientific Theory?
The Theory of Evolution. Excellent introductory encyclopedia article.
Is Evolution Science? It certainly is. Here's why.

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[plain talk]

I know of no one who wants to teach faith as science. I agree with that. I also believe we should not teach science as faith either.

[bobdsmith]

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