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Let's Have No More Monkey Trials - To teach faith as science is to undermine both
Time Magazine ^
| Monday, Aug. 01, 2005
| CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER
Posted on 08/01/2005 10:58:13 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: spunkets; Alamo-Girl; Doctor Stochastic; marron; PatrickHenry
The fifth only appears to unite EM, gravity and account for most of the particles in the std model. This 5d construction results in mass appearing in the 4d space, unites EM and gravity and accounts for most of the particles in the std model with limits of... => Well gee, spunkets, I'd be pretty impressed if that's all (!!!) it could do.... Why so blase about it?
You wrote:
It's ~10/11d string theory, w, or w/o supersym. I think 26d is required to account for all the particles. Some fermions are missing with 10/11d.
What I'm about to say isn't exactly a "scientific observation" at all; but here goes anyway.
Things that are overly complicated are usually not beautiful. Beauty is spare, elegant, and above all truthful and just. Beauty is a beacon for the human mind. Coming up with one dimension per particle seems like a case of nature doing it the hard way, a tad kludgy to me. It just seems too complicated to be beautiful, in any classical sense.... There are mathematicians who believe that if the mathematics isn't beautiful, then it's probably not truthful either. Einstein, Dirac, Godel come to mind here....
Hey, FWIW. it's late; I'm tired; and I wish you a very good night, spunkets. Thank you so much for writing!
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posted on
08/07/2005 9:39:32 PM PDT
by
betty boop
(Nature loves to hide. -- Heraclitus)
To: Rockingham
1,782
posted on
08/08/2005 5:43:03 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Alamo-Girl
Indeed, the word "myth" has morphed over the years to mean something unseemly.The folks at Bedrock would agree.
"Gay ol' time indeed!
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posted on
08/08/2005 5:44:16 AM PDT
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Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Doctor Stochastic
It's amusing (if not dangerous) to follow the money.I agree. Interesting that any scientist that dares to question the theory of evolution is 'punished' by withholding grant money from him/her. Following the money can tell you many things.
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posted on
08/08/2005 5:48:00 AM PDT
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: MEGoody
Interesting that any scientist that dares to question the theory of evolution is 'punished' by withholding grant money from him/her. Absolute false. I've worked in these fields and no such thing happens.
You might want to look at the funding of Discovery Institute though.
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posted on
08/08/2005 6:34:32 AM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: betty boop
Things that are overly complicated are usually not beautiful. Beauty is spare, elegant, and above all truthful and just. Beauty is a beacon for the human mind. Coming up with one dimension per particle seems like a case of nature doing it the hard way, a tad kludgy to me. It just seems too complicated to be beautiful, in any classical sense.... There are mathematicians who believe that if the mathematics isn't beautiful, then it's probably not truthful either. Einstein, Dirac, Godel come to mind here....
Very well said. Thank you!!!
To: Elsie
Er, I didn't get your point. Would you care to explain further?
To: Doctor Stochastic
Absolute false. I've worked in these fields and no such thing happens.LOL!
Sure. Of course. Right.
::::Snicker::::
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posted on
08/08/2005 9:14:14 AM PDT
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MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: Alamo-Girl
It's how the usage of words change over time.
Bedrock (Barney & Wilma) of Flintstone fame, singing the theme song.
Gay used to be happy, joyful, giddy: NOW look at it's major usage!
The musical WestSideStory has even had the lines changed from gay to bright (to rhyme with night instead of day) in it's song : I Feel Pretty
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posted on
08/08/2005 1:36:56 PM PDT
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Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
P L A C E M A R K E R
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posted on
08/08/2005 2:21:59 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
To: PatrickHenry
Snickering-stooge placemarker.
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posted on
08/08/2005 7:36:41 PM PDT
by
balrog666
(A myth by any other name is still inane.)
To: Elsie
Ahhh. Thank you so much for the explanation!
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