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Florida Lottery Says $250,000 Scratch-Off Ticket Is Misprinted
WFTV.com ^ | July 29, 2005 | None Listed

Posted on 08/02/2005 12:12:07 AM PDT by MissouriConservative

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To: MissouriConservative

They can pay her now. Or pay her more later. No jury in the state will side with the lotto on this.


41 posted on 08/02/2005 1:06:20 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: BigCinBigD

I might very well side with the lotto if I were a juror. It would depend on what the rules of the game and the laws governing it say..


42 posted on 08/02/2005 1:10:36 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: The Red Zone
Did you read the part where it said the name of the number is printed under the numeral? Under the correctly-printed "2" it said "TWO" and under the incorrectly-printed "22" (where the second part of the "22" was only faintly printed so that it read "2-" it said "TWENT- ---" or some portion thereof.
43 posted on 08/02/2005 1:27:15 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

"an abbreviation"


44 posted on 08/02/2005 1:30:22 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: MissouriConservative

45 posted on 08/02/2005 1:46:56 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: The Red Zone
If they don't "misplace" it.

You would think they would have the sense to be extremely forthcoming and show why the ticket was a misprint, to everyone's satisfaction.

If I were in Florida right now, I would not play their lottery until they do.

What's the point if they won't either pay or make an adequate public explanation (complete with images and annotations) why they will not?

If enough people smell a rat, their till take should drop off considerably.

46 posted on 08/02/2005 1:51:40 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: LegendHasIt

Yup. The state should put their money where their mouth is. The have been benefiting all this time from lottery proceeds, so it's not like they are some impartial observer who is the victim of bad printing.

They wouldn't want to take this into civil suit land. All she would need is nine folks to agree, and they WOULD agree.


47 posted on 08/02/2005 1:55:59 AM PDT by djf (Government wants the same, really old things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

You´re absolutely right. But Florida should have enough experience with recounts of litte confusing cards, shouldn´t it?


48 posted on 08/02/2005 1:56:48 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Smokin' Joe

Unless they actually see a hit in their take in connection with a public outcry, they're not going to want to bother.

This ticket is going to get subpoenaed for sure, though what follows afterwards is anybody's guess.


49 posted on 08/02/2005 1:57:32 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Lawsuit time, big time. Fraud. Treble damages.


50 posted on 08/02/2005 2:07:53 AM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: MissouriConservative

i'm sure Bush is somehow involved. he probably set up the machines or something. it's his fault.


51 posted on 08/02/2005 2:16:14 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

Bet they'll blame Diebold.


52 posted on 08/02/2005 2:30:01 AM PDT by StarSpangled
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To: MissouriConservative
I smell a lawsuit coming.

The coming lawsuit over scratchers should be over the deceptive way they are marketed. They all have pretty simple games that look like they have a fairly good chance of winning. Match this roll of the die and win big bucks, or some such. Now a person could get the impression from that that he has a one-in-36 chance of winning the big bucks. Of course, only a certain number of winners are printed, and the different rolls of the dice are not random, so the odds of winning are much, much lower.

Which is where the lawsuit comes in. The purpose of the deceptive game is, obviously, to encourage people to play. But they are being encouraged to play a game that is rigged against them. It would be very easy for the state to print not deceptive tickets, such as "scratch off and reveal a 10-digit code number. If it matches the number printed above, you win! Then the astronomical odds are obvious to anyone who plays the game.

Now, since every individual player is out only a buck or two, it will be necessary to file the lawsuit as a class action. But the class of people is ripped off to the tune of Billions of Dollars. That's a lot of zeros, buddy. A lawyer could live very well on a third of that pile...

53 posted on 08/02/2005 2:43:03 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: The Red Zone
I would have thought that any state lottery would put serial numbers on its tickets so that it can cross verify the scratch off numbers that are supposed to be upon any given submitted ticket.

They do. That's why they aren't paying up.

54 posted on 08/02/2005 2:49:16 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (It is Watergate yet? Is it Watergate yet?)
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To: MissouriConservative

Florida does not have to pay up. The ticket was not misleading to the purchaser, except in as much as all scratcher tickets are misleading to the purchaser. They win based on the control code printed on them. The scratched portion merely indicates to the consumer whether or not the control code indicates the ticket is a winner. For instance, you could take your tickets back to the lottery agency for verification without even bothering to scratch them.

No tickee, no shirtee. If the control code doesn't match, the ticket is a loser.


55 posted on 08/02/2005 2:49:34 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: MissouriConservative

Give her the freakin' cash, you deadbeats.


56 posted on 08/02/2005 2:55:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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Scratch tickets have multiple ways of determining whether it's a winner or not, specifically to identify tampering and misprints. The game itself is meaningless. There are letters scattered over the ticket that represent money winnings like T-W-O for two dollars, as well as individual bar codes that are tied to ticket value in the lottery computers. Her ticket was a misprint in the game area, but the rest of the parts didn't match a big ticket winner.


57 posted on 08/02/2005 3:28:40 AM PDT by vollmond (Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Lotteries are a tax on stupid people.


58 posted on 08/02/2005 3:30:06 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: MissouriConservative

The Florida lottery states that 500 million tickets are printed each year. Let's assume they sell most of them in a given year. The net result after paying lottery winners I am sure is in the hundreds of millions of dollars per year.

For crying out load GIVE THE WOMAN HER $250,000!


59 posted on 08/02/2005 4:00:10 AM PDT by saneright
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To: MissouriConservative

I think that when the dust settles on this, Tina will have something close to her $250,000 dollars and her lawyer will have a happy smile on his face.

If a store is required to sell a product for the price it inadvertently mismarked on the item, why should the FloriDUH Lottery Commission get to play by a different set of rules?


60 posted on 08/02/2005 4:00:11 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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