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But Wouldn't Warlords Take Over? (probably)
Mises Institute ^ | July 7, 2005 | Robert Murphy

Posted on 08/03/2005 1:09:17 PM PDT by robowombat

But Wouldn't Warlords Take Over? by Robert Murphy [Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005]

On two separate occasions in the last couple of weeks, people have asked me a familiar question: “In a system of ‘anarcho-capitalism’ or the free-market order, wouldn’t society degenerate into constant battles between private warlords?” Unfortunately I didn’t give adequate answers at the times, but I hope in this article to prove the adage that later is better than never.

APPLES AND ORANGES When dealing with the warlord objection, we need to keep our comparisons fair. It won’t do to compare society A, which is filled with evil, ignorant savages who live under anarchy, with society B, which is populated by enlightened, law-abiding citizens who live under limited government. The anarchist doesn’t deny that life might be better in society B. What the anarchist does claim is that, for any given population, the imposition of a coercive government will make things worse. The absence of a State is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition to achieve the free society.

To put the matter differently: It is not enough to demonstrate that a state of private-property anarchy could degenerate into ceaseless war, where no single group is strong enough to subjugate all challengers, and hence no one can establish “order.” After all, communities living under a State degenerate into civil war all the time. We should remember that the frequently cited cases of Colombia and now Iraq are not demonstrations of anarchy-turned-into-chaos, but rather examples of government-turned-into-chaos.

For the warlord objection to work, the statist would need to argue that a given community would remain lawful under a government, but that the same community would break down into continuous warfare if all legal and military services were privatized. The popular case of Somalia, therefore, helps neither side.[i] It is true that Rothbardians should be somewhat disturbed that the respect for non-aggression is apparently too rare in Somalia to foster the spontaneous emergence of a totally free market community. But by the same token, the respect for “the law” was also too weak to allow the original Somali government to maintain order.

Now that we’ve focused the issue, I think there are strong reasons to suppose that civil war would be much less likely in a region dominated by private defense and judicial agencies, rather than by a monopoly State. Private agencies own the assets at their disposal, whereas politicians (especially in democracies) merely exercise temporary control over the State’s military equipment. Bill Clinton was perfectly willing to fire off dozens of cruise missiles when the Lewinsky scandal was picking up steam. Now regardless of one’s beliefs about Clinton’s motivations, clearly Slick Willie would have been less likely to launch such an attack if he had been the CEO of a private defense agency that could have sold the missiles on the open market for $569,000 each .[ii]

We can see this principle in the case of the United States. In the 1860s, would large scale combat have broken out on anywhere near the same scale if, instead of the two factions controlling hundreds of thousands of conscripts, all military commanders had to hire voluntary mercenaries and pay them a market wage for their services?

CONTRACT THEORY OF GOVERNMENT I can imagine a reader generally endorsing the above analysis, yet still resisting my conclusion. He or she might say something like this: “In a state of nature, people initially have different views of justice. Under market anarchy, different consumers would patronize dozens of defense agencies, each of which attempts to use its forces to implement incompatible codes of law. Now it’s true that these professional gangs might generally avoid conflict out of prudence, but the equilibrium would still be precarious.”

“To avoid this outcome,” my critic could elaborate, “citizens put aside their petty differences and agree to support a single, monopoly agency, which then has the power to crush all challengers to its authority. This admittedly raises the new problem of controlling the Leviathan, but at least it solves the problem of ceaseless domestic warfare.”

There are several problems with this possible approach. First, it assumes that the danger of private warlords is worse than the threat posed by a tyrannical central government. Second, there is the inconvenient fact that no such voluntary formation of a State ever occurred. Even those citizens who, say, supported the ratification of the U.S. Constitution were never given the option of living in market anarchy; instead they had to choose between government under the Articles of Confederation or government under the Constitution.

But for our purposes, the most interesting problem with this objection is that, were it an accurate description, it would be unnecessary for such a people to form a government. If, by hypothesis, the vast majority of people—although they have different conceptions of justice—can all agree that it is wrong to use violence to settle their honest disputes, then market forces would lead to peace among the private police agencies.

Yes, it is perfectly true that people have vastly different opinions concerning particular legal issues. Some people favor capital punishment, some consider abortion to be murder, and there would be no consensus on how many guilty people should go free to avoid the false conviction of one innocent defendant. Nonetheless, if the contract theory of government is correct, the vast majority of individuals can agree that they should settle these issues not through force, but rather through an orderly procedure (such as is provided by periodic elections).

But if this does indeed describe a particular population, why would we expect such virtuous people, as consumers, to patronize defense agencies that routinely used force against weak opponents? Why wouldn’t the vast bulk of reasonable customers patronize defense agencies that had interlocking arbitration agreements, and submitted their legitimate disputes to reputable, disinterested arbitrators? Why wouldn’t the private, voluntary legal framework function as an orderly mechanism to settle matters of “public policy”?

Again, the above description would not apply to every society in history. But by the same token, such warlike people would also fail to maintain the rule of law in a limited State.

FREE RIDERS?

A sophisticated apologist for the State—especially one versed in mainstream economics—might come back with yet another justification: “The reason a limited government is necessary is that we can’t trust the market to adequately fund legitimate police forces. It may be true that 95 percent of a population would have similar enough views with respect to justice such that peace would obtain if they all contributed substantially to defense agencies dedicated to enforcing their views.”

“However,” the apologist could continue, “if these police agencies have no right to extract contributions from everyone who endorses their actions, then they will be able to field a much smaller force. The market fails specifically because of the free rider problem: When a legitimate firm cracks down on a rogue agency, all law abiding people benefit, but in a free market they would not be obliged to pay for this ‘public good.’ Consequently, rogue agencies, funded by malevolent outlaws, will have a much wider scope of operation under anarchy.”

Again, there are several possible replies to such a position. First, let us reflect that a large standing army, ready to crush minority dissenters, is not an unambiguously desirable feature of government.

Second, the alleged problem of free riders would not be nearly as disastrous as many economists believe. For example, insurance companies would “internalize the externalities” to a large degree. It may be true that an “inefficient” number of serial killers would be apprehended if the relevant detective and police agencies had to solicit contributions from individual households. (Sure, everyone gets a slight benefit from knowing a serial killer has been caught, but whether or not one person contributes probably won’t make the difference between capture or escape.)

Yet insurance companies that each held policies for thousands of people in a major city would be willing to contribute hefty amounts to eliminate the menace of a serial killer. (After all, if he kills again, one of these companies will have to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars to the estate of the victim.) The same reasoning demonstrates that the free market could adequately fund programs to “contain” rogue agencies.

Third, people need to really picture the nightmare scenario to see how absurd it is. Imagine a bustling city, such as New York, that is initially a free market paradise. Is it really plausible that over time rival gangs would constantly grow, and eventually terrorize the general public?[iii] Remember, these would be admittedly criminal organizations; unlike the city government of New York, there would be no ideological support for these gangs.

We must consider that in such an environment, the law-abiding majority would have all sorts of mechanisms at their disposal, beyond physical confrontation. Once private judges had ruled against a particular rogue agency, the private banks could freeze its assets (up to the amount of fines levied by the arbitrators). In addition, the private utility companies could shut down electricity and water to the agency’s headquarters, in accordance with standard provisions in their contracts.

The Myth of National Defense, 20% off Of course, it is theoretically possible that a rogue agency could overcome these obstacles, either through intimidation or division of the spoils, and take over enough banks, power companies, grocery stores, etc. that only full-scale military assault would conquer it. But the point is, from an initial position of market anarchy, these would-be rulers would have to start from scratch. In contrast, under even a limited government, the machinery of mass subjugation is ready and waiting to be seized. CONCLUSION

The standard objection that anarchy would lead to battling warlords is unfounded. In those communities where such an outcome would occur, the addition of a State wouldn’t help. Indeed, the precise opposite is true: The voluntary arrangements of a private property society would be far more conducive to peace and the rule of law, than the coercive setup of a parasitical monopoly government.

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Robert Murphy is an adjunct scholar of the Mises Institute. He teaches economics at Hillsdale College. See the Murphy Archive. Buy his book on the stateless society. Discuss this article on the blog.

[i] Having made this concession, I should point out that anarcho-capitalists can see their theories borne out in Somalia to some extent.

[ii] It’s true that this figure would be lower for a private defense firm, since it would control costs much better than the Pentagon. Nonetheless it is still true that a private firm would husband its stockpile of weapons better than State officials.

[iii] Let us also keep in mind that currently, mob groups (1) do not extract anywhere near as much money, nor kill as many people, as any government in a typical day’s work, and (2) they derive their current strength from government prohibitions (on gambling, drugs, prostitution, loan-sharking, etc.) and hence are not representative at all of an anarchist world.


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Another well written display of the unreality of libertarian thought when it addresses such issues as warfare and military institutions. It's surprising after watching what became of Afghanistan that the author could post this with a straight face.
1 posted on 08/03/2005 1:09:17 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
Q: What's the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian?

A: About $10,000.

2 posted on 08/03/2005 1:13:16 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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To: robowombat

Of course warlords take over in the absence of goverment. Whats a worse thought is... Imagine the US without goverment and 12,300 nukes still around.


3 posted on 08/03/2005 1:14:15 PM PDT by Alex Marko
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To: robowombat

"After all, communities living under a State degenerate into civil war all the time. We should remember that the frequently cited cases of Colombia and now Iraq are not demonstrations of anarchy-turned-into-chaos, but rather examples of government-turned-into-chaos."

What is happening in Iraq is not a civil war.

It wasn't a civil war when the US came in and removed Iraq.

It's not a civil war now, because it's not mainly a domestic uprising. The terrorists in Iraq are being funded by foreign sources, and for the most part led by foreigners.

The majority have voted to form the new Iraqi government.

It's not an example of a governed country falling into a civil war. It's an example of foreigners wanting to destabalize the fledgling government and put a repressive puppet government in place to keep the people from governing themselves.


4 posted on 08/03/2005 1:27:20 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: robowombat
I happen to adore libertarian thought on personal autonomy and laissez-faire economics. We hear constantly about separation of church and state. How about the separation of business and state? But I digress.

On foreign policy and military issues, libertarians take a bath.


5 posted on 08/03/2005 1:31:55 PM PDT by rdb3 (I once had a handle on life, but I broke it.)
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To: robowombat
Third, people need to really picture the nightmare scenario to see how absurd it is. Imagine a bustling city, such as New York, that is initially a free market paradise. Is it really plausible that over time rival gangs would constantly grow, and eventually terrorize the general public?[iii] Remember, these would be admittedly criminal organizations; unlike the city government of New York, there would be no ideological support for these gangs.

Yes, it is likely that criminal gangs would form to terrorize the general public, the lack of "ideological support" notwithstanding.

We must consider that in such an environment, the law-abiding majority would have all sorts of mechanisms at their disposal, beyond physical confrontation. Once private judges had ruled against a particular rogue agency, the private banks could freeze its assets (up to the amount of fines levied by the arbitrators). In addition, the private utility companies could shut down electricity and water to the agency’s headquarters, in accordance with standard provisions in their contracts.

So the anarcho-capitalists imagine a system of private judges issuing fatwas to stop criminal gangs? The obvious answer to that is simple: the gangs set up their own private judges, banks, and utility companies. Even easier, they coerce the existing private judges, banks, and utilities to see things as the gangs do. (See the next paragraph.)

The Myth of National Defense, 20% off Of course, it is theoretically possible that a rogue agency could overcome these obstacles, either through intimidation or division of the spoils, and take over enough banks, power companies, grocery stores, etc. that only full-scale military assault would conquer it. But the point is, from an initial position of market anarchy, these would-be rulers would have to start from scratch. In contrast, under even a limited government, the machinery of mass subjugation is ready and waiting to be seized.

Here the author contradicts himself. He imagines that "banks, power companies, grocery stores, etc." will exist and have sufficient coercive power to stop a criminal gang; then he turns around and assures us that such institutions would not be available to coerce anyone else.

And why does the author refer to national defense as a myth? If history tells us anything, it is that even peaceful nations suffer military attack from time to time. Does the author suppose that a conquerer would not be able to take control of all the "banks, power companies, grocery stores, etc." and thereby control the population? Or does he suppose that the conquerer would suddenly be smitten with the beauties of anarcho-capitalism and give up his conquest?

6 posted on 08/03/2005 1:38:57 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: robowombat

This guy is a nut.

"For the warlord objection to work, the statist would need to argue that a given community would remain lawful under a government, but that the same community would break down into continuous warfare if all legal and military services were privatized."

Governments break down and fail due to human nature, but many have lasted a very long time.

Anarchy has never resulted in a peacful long standing state.

When governments have collapsed, the anarchy of the power gap has resulted in violence and fueds between rivals. It has never resulted in a bunch of groups that all just get along and mutually respect each other with no government and no rule of law.

However, I guess if you're just willing to ignore all of recorded history, you can just say that you can't prove that in a particular incident that things would have happened differently if the circumstances were different...

I guess I can't prove that I would be miserable if I were thrown in jail becasue I haven't been thrown in jail and it's still possible I could be miserable without being thrown in jail.

His logic at best doesn't support his theory, it just doesn't discount it and claims you can't prove him wrong even though he can't point to his theory ever working.

I like this part too:

"Yet insurance companies that each held policies for thousands of people in a major city would be willing to contribute hefty amounts to eliminate the menace of a serial killer. (After all, if he kills again, one of these companies will have to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars to the estate of the victim.) The same reasoning demonstrates that the free market could adequately fund programs to “contain” rogue agencies."

I suppose this is why insurance companies have kept the costs of medical expenses low. Oh wait, they haven't.

Medical insurance companies don't pay the costs of medical expenses, their customers do. High medical costs actually encourage more people to get insurance, and make it so that their profits are a smaller part of the whole costs and they need a smaller percentage of the bill to make money.

No one needs life insurance in a world where there's no danger of death. If insurance companies have to pay out more money they raise rates. There can become a point where the risk of insuring people makes the cost of insurance too high for the market to bear, but removing danger in general isn't in an insurance company's best interests.

Insurance companies don't remove risks, they bill you according to the amount of risk in your life.

By default he's assuming that his Anarchist society would be held together by common values and peaceful intentions. He's assuming that without any kind of rule of law, that everyone would be able to peacefully resolve their differences.

However, without any rule of law, there would be no consistency. Everyone would have their own opinions, and even if you resolved an issue with one person or group of people, that solution may be unacceptable to others.

You would spend all your time negotiating what is acceptable with different people. Eventually, you'd end up with some level of consensus among the majority of people. Those people would band together to get others to play by those rules, and then in effect you have a government.

Anarchy can only work in a vacuum. As soon as people start interacting, anarchy will start to disappear either through someone exerting dominance, through mutual cooperation, or through everyone killing each other until only one person remains (another version of exerting dominance).


7 posted on 08/03/2005 2:00:05 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: robowombat
In the 1860s, would large scale combat have broken out on anywhere near the same scale if, instead of the two factions controlling hundreds of thousands of conscripts, all military commanders had to hire voluntary mercenaries and pay them a market wage for their services?

The problem with this analogy is that the WBTS, at least for the first couple of years, was almost entirely a volunteer war, although mass public social pressure (especially by women) was a major reason for volunteering.

At the start of the war neither side had the infrastructure to compel participation. Both Lincoln and Davis had to ask their states to provide troops, with no real way to compel them to. It was a couple of years before conscription was introduced by either side, and even then it largely functioned to "encourage" volunteers. Few men actually served as draftees.

8 posted on 08/03/2005 2:07:16 PM PDT by Restorer (Liberalism: the auto-immune disease of societies.)
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Insurance companies don't remove risks, they bill you according to the amount of risk in your life.

The research necessary for a lot of safety innovations, from electrical codes (UL) to fire safety to automobiles have been funded by insurance companies. Their incentive is to reduce risk while continuing to charge you the same amount. They increase profits that way with a lot less resistance than by just raising rates.

9 posted on 08/03/2005 2:10:23 PM PDT by Restorer (Liberalism: the auto-immune disease of societies.)
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To: Restorer
The research necessary for a lot of safety innovations, from electrical codes (UL) to fire safety to automobiles have been funded by insurance companies. Their incentive is to reduce risk while continuing to charge you the same amount. They increase profits that way with a lot less resistance than by just raising rates.

good points. This has no relation to this thread, but as far as medical expenses, the government has their hand so deep (screwing up and running up costs) that there is no way market incentives could even arise at all. The government is the primary reason medical costs rise so much (ditto for subsidizing student loans, allowing Colleges to run up tuition rates easily). sorry for the digression...

10 posted on 08/03/2005 2:23:35 PM PDT by liberty2004
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To: robowombat

"Another well written display of the unreality of libertarian thought when it addresses such issues as warfare and military institutions."

Libertarians are not anarchists.


11 posted on 08/03/2005 2:27:59 PM PDT by monday
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To: robowombat

Apparently this fool is unaware that warlords sustain themselves by looting. Which makes war profitable and continual.

Judges issuing injunctions against criminal gangs in the absence of police to enforce their laws or protect their lives ? What an idiot.

And what this fool also fails to comprehend is that a nation that cannot maintain civil order will be partitioned by its neighbors. The way Zimbabwe, Rwanda, and Uganda have helped themselves to the mines of Zaire.


12 posted on 08/03/2005 2:36:16 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: untrained skeptic
"By default he's assuming that his Anarchist society would be held together by common values and peaceful intentions. He's assuming that without any kind of rule of law, that everyone would be able to peacefully resolve their differences."

Which of course is absurd. There are far too many people willing to use whatever force necessary to obtain what they want. Anarchists are as utopian and naive about actual human nature as communists are.

One thing you can say about authoritarians, they aren't naive about the realities of human nature, and indeed demonstrate some of the worst traits of human nature themselves in their endless struggle to achieve dominance over their fellow man.
13 posted on 08/03/2005 2:40:31 PM PDT by monday
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To: robowombat
The absence of a State is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition to achieve the free society.

Until a state comes and runs over all of these individuals...which would be as soon as a state feels like it.

14 posted on 08/03/2005 3:07:03 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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