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Eastern Europe: Russian-Polish Tensions Rise Over Attack On Russian Children In Warsaw
Radio Free Europe ^
| Wednesday, 03 August 2005
| Valentinas Mite
Posted on 08/03/2005 3:55:14 PM PDT by lizol
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posted on
08/03/2005 3:55:14 PM PDT
by
lizol
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posted on
08/03/2005 3:56:07 PM PDT
by
lizol
To: lizol
Boratynski said it is not an accident that the reaction comes at the time of tense relations between Russia and Belarus.
"I think the Russians are seizing a very good opportunity to try once gain for the external audience, mostly for the European Union, to show that actually Poland cannot be treated in a serious manner, that it is a country kind of obsessed with anti-Russian phobia," Boratynski said.
Geee - how are the Russians going to get the Nazis to invade Poland again so that the Kremlin can do the same unnoticed?
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:01:46 PM PDT
by
spanalot
To: lizol
Russian officials said that bad feelings toward Russia are widespread in Poland. No kidding. Russians shouldn't be surprised.
On the other hand, the kids don't deserve to be attacked by street thugs. Poland is correct, that this is a common crime, and should not be made into a political issue. On a human level, though, someone from the Foreign Ministry should already have gone personally to the families to express concern and regret. I would bet that they did so. If they didn't, they should.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:03:54 PM PDT
by
marron
To: lizol
lizol,
Don't you live close to Warsaw? Would you agree that there is a lot of anti-Russian sentiment in Poland?
Certainly the people that I interacted with in Warsaw were still chafing from personal injustices during the Soviet occupation.
To: lizol
...strong anti-Russian sentiments in the country.Geez, I wonder why? Who could hate a good ole Sovi, er, Russian.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:07:30 PM PDT
by
numberonepal
(Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
To: the_Watchman
I could agree, that there is some (bot certainly not "a lot")of anti-Russian sentiment here, in Poland.
But there is sometinng, that should be stressed. It may sound a bit strange, but this negative sentiment is not towards the Russian people, it's towards Russia, as a state, towards its authorities and policy.
I'm absolutely positive, that there is no basis for anti-Russian agression, leading to acts of violence against the Russians. It's total, TOTAL BS.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:13:35 PM PDT
by
lizol
To: lizol
Listen Pal,
I have friends from all over the world. I ask each the same question. What do the people of your home think of the local politicians. To a one they all say they are crooks.
I believe that deep down we'd all like to just get a good kick on our politicians and a few many kicks.
It isn't hard to believe that many folks from all over East Europe would like to take a few good kicks on Russian govt. folk.
To: lizol; marron
I definitely agree that this issue should not be politicized. The thugs should be punished appropriately and Polish authorities should do their best to prevent such things from happening again. Criticizing Russian leadership is not anti-Russian. However, if it turns out that these thugs really attacked kids because they were Russian, then it should be appropriately condemned. No decent person would beat somebody up simply because of ethnic origin.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:23:58 PM PDT
by
sergey1973
(Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
To: lizol
I can't understand how anyone could "not" love the fun-loving Russians, such a great group of criminals.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:24:20 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
To: marron
I agree with you. If the Foreign Ministry and local municipal authorities did not express their regret to the families, and show determination to track down the hooligans, they should.
Perhaps I'm just having a Lukashenko-paranoia day, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised to find out that, when caught, the "hooligans" might have some connection with Belarus. It is Lukashenko is stand to gain the most from Polish-Russian tensions, not Russia.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:28:53 PM PDT
by
Heatseeker
("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
To: Heatseeker
Believe me, you're not the only one who thinks about it. :-)))
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:35:50 PM PDT
by
lizol
To: sergey1973; marron; Heatseeker
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:38:44 PM PDT
by
lizol
To: rodguy911
These kids are criminals ? Did they do anything to anyone or conspire to do anything ? Or if somebody is born ethnic/native Russian he's an authomatically qualifies as a criminal according to you ? Just curious to know.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:42:57 PM PDT
by
sergey1973
(Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
To: lizol
Like I wrote on that other thread. It's time for a NATO exercise. There needs to be a strong defense on the Eastern border.
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posted on
08/03/2005 4:47:17 PM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
To: lizol
I hope that Lukashenko is right - that the Polish minority in Belarus is trying to push him out of power. They would be doing the world a favor.
To: sergey1973
No Sergey, the kids are not criminals. But a lot of people in Eastern Europe have not forgotten the pillaging of their lands by the Soviets. And Putin is not helping any with his drive to another dictatorship. the kids should not be targeted, though. However, I agree with others here that it is very possible that Lukashenko's fingerprints are all over this.
To: sergey1973
"Or if somebody is born ethnic/native Russian he's an authomatically qualifies as a criminal according to you ?"
Not too far from the truth.
Russia's imperialism and genocide is unprecedented and the average Russian denies to this day culpability and each and every surviving Russian has benefited from the ill gotten gains. (Granted, some rightous Russians did perish)
And please, no crying about the "Russians" that perished beating Hitler. It was Poland and Ukraine that lost the tens of millions - not Muscovy.
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posted on
08/03/2005 5:02:05 PM PDT
by
spanalot
To: rodguy911; sergey1973
I have to agree with Sergey on this one - whatever failings we may attribute to Putin's government, or even to the Russian/Soviet governments of years past, there's no excuse to take it out on the kids.
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posted on
08/03/2005 5:03:06 PM PDT
by
Heatseeker
("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
To: lizol
I bet nobody has Russia invading Poland on the "when will the war really start" pool.
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