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Not Really 'Over There'
Faces From The Front ^ | Monday, 01 August 2005 | JD Johannes

Posted on 08/03/2005 7:03:00 PM PDT by tgslTakoma

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To: Sender

"Tonight's episode has a lot of shooting innocent people who drive up to checkpoints in cars. A burning trauma of shoot first, kill em all, write a report in the morning. Traumatized young Americans forced to kill grandma."

I thought tonights was a bit weird. They are overly cautious about opening the trunk of the one car. Then in the last scene they are pounding on the trunk lid before popping it open. Inconsistant.....but then it is Hollywood.


21 posted on 08/04/2005 1:33:59 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: tgslTakoma
"In the real war, the commanders on the ground would have returned fire and shot the building full of holes before anyone watching Al Jazeera on the satellite in Baghdad could figure out what was going on.

In the real war, as evidenced by Fallujah and other cities, the mosque would have been shot up and probably destroyed "

I don’t’ think the author’s correct in this basic and repeated premise. I don’t think that we’ve actually leveled Mosques, perhaps with the exception of the second battle for Fallujah, no matter how much fire that we’ve taken from them. Attacked, yes. Leveled, no.

Also, I think that it was last fall in Samara that we DID get held up for 2 hours by Mosque snipers while waiting for authorization to fire back, despite his claim that local commanders always immediately fire back.

The author may know 1000 time what I know of life on the ground there, but he’s still misinformed in that regard.

22 posted on 08/04/2005 5:07:30 AM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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Sorry, guys, but this is a good show, from a female non-military point of view

Too bad it's not a female, non-military series.

23 posted on 08/04/2005 5:20:55 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Puppage

They could have made it much more realistic if they would have cast the Olson twins as the Hussain boys.


24 posted on 08/04/2005 6:01:36 AM PDT by The Toll
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Too bad it's not a female, non-military series.

1. My opinion doesn't count because I'm a girl??

or 2. Females should not watch this show?

Dang, I knew if my bare-footed baby bearing self took an hour out of the kitchen, laundry and home-running duties, my Master would catch me! :)

25 posted on 08/04/2005 6:25:08 AM PDT by blu ( the low spark of high heeled boys....)
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P.S. I saw that the show was rated for language and violence, but I must have missed the rating for non-females. Tsk tsk!


26 posted on 08/04/2005 6:26:42 AM PDT by blu ( the low spark of high heeled boys....)
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My opinion doesn't count because I'm a girl??

Of course it does, but why should the fact that you're a female with no military experience matter at all? I guess if you were trying to show a different point of view, I can understand it. I guess I misread your post. I am sorry.

27 posted on 08/04/2005 6:31:30 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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He's a bit harsh, but I mostly agree. Still, it's very watchable. (But A&M don't give partials -- jeez!)

He's right, but I don't think the criticisms are all that relevant.

This show isn't really about creating a super-realistic portrayal of American troops in Iraq. It's mostly character-driven. At least in the first episode, most of the show was about the members of the platoon interacting with one another, rather than the tactics of how the Army would deal with a group of insurgents holed up in a mosque.

This guy misses the point- not every war show needs to be a hyper-realistic documentary. Is Rescue Me hyper-realistic when it comes to firefighter? Is The Shield super-realistic about what cops do?

28 posted on 08/04/2005 7:21:39 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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Face it, it's a remake of the Vietnam war with updated uniforms. The scene with the druggie clinched it for me, I should have turned it off right then and there.

I'm surprised FOX bought that piece of crap.

29 posted on 08/04/2005 7:38:04 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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Truce. I was trying to point out that to the non-military viewer's point of view, this show is pretty good. As to the guys being overly curious about the trunk, I also was thinking" What's in there? If you threw a rock at it, would it explode? Is there a timer? wires? When are the explosives people gonna get here and take it out?!"

Of course, to the people who've actually been over there, this show won't be realistic, because everyone's experience is different. But, since I can't come over to your neighborhood bar and listen to your war stories (speaking collectively here) this show does a much better job of showing what it's (sort of) like Over There than the daily news shows.

And do check out the link at the beginning of this thread, it's good!

30 posted on 08/04/2005 7:39:09 AM PDT by blu ( the low spark of high heeled boys....)
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To: Modernman

God -- I hope not. Because if anyone as drugged up as Leary, et al., try to save me from a burning building, I'll jump!


31 posted on 08/04/2005 11:26:49 AM PDT by BroncosFan ("Now we grieve, 'cause now it's gone / But things were good when we were young.")
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