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Roberts worked for gay rights activists
The Baltimore Sun ^ | 8/4/05 | Richard Serrano

Posted on 08/04/2005 7:24:32 AM PDT by conserv13

WASHINGTON - Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr. worked behind the scenes for a coalition of gay rights activists, and his legal expertise helped them persuade the Supreme Court to issue a landmark 1996 ruling protecting people against discrimination because of their sexual orientation.

Then a private lawyer in Washington specializing in appellate work, Roberts helped represent the gay activists as part of his pro bono work at his law firm. He did not write the legal briefs or argue the case before the high court; he was instrumental in reviewing the filings and preparing oral arguments, several lawyers intimately involved in the case said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; johnroberts; roberts; romervevans; scotus; stupidsubject; ussc
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To: EDINVA
This story is so slanted it makes me angry but conservatives have an obligation to understand more than what the MSM is feeding them, and how easily they will bolt from a candidate based on a LAT/Baltimore Sun article is pretty discouraging.

Yes, it's exhibit skaty-eight showing the dumbing-down of conservatism.

301 posted on 08/04/2005 9:12:33 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I agree that there are many reasons he agreed to help on the case. I also believe that an appointment to SCOTUS is something we cannot afford to screw up. That is why appointing someone who seems to have deliberately left an ambiguous paper trail is so risky. Once a Justice has voted to uphold Roe, it's a little late to say "Oops, sorry."

Why not appoint a conservative jurist who had proved his or her self? When the issue is important to Bush (CAFTA, prescription drugs or No Child Left Behind) he pulls no punches. Why not on judges?


302 posted on 08/04/2005 9:23:32 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative
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To: U.H. Conservative
agree that there are many reasons he agreed to help on the case. I also believe that an appointment to SCOTUS is something we cannot afford to screw up. That is why appointing someone who seems to have deliberately left an ambiguous paper trail is so risky. Once a Justice has voted to uphold Roe, it's a little late to say "Oops, sorry."

I agree that an appointment to the SCOTUS is extremely important. I also agree that it would be nice if the nominees record wasn't so ambiguous to both of us.

However, two points;

First, given the idealogical makeup of the senate, we may not have the luxury of a nominee who has proved his or her self to both you and I as a strict constructionist. Secondly, given Roberts years of work for people like Justice William Rehnquist and President Ronald Reagan, there are most likely many insiders who do know where Roberts stands on the Constitution.

Thus, most likely, Roberts is not a mystery to the President.

303 posted on 08/04/2005 9:42:56 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: U.H. Conservative

I think Roberts IS a conservative. A cautious conservative, for sure, but I think we will find he's pretty solid when he's on the bench. And, I think his opinions will be well thought out and articulated. He may have more respect for precedent, however wrongly decided, than we might like, and that is a concern. From the recent Coulter article, what paper trail Souter had, he sounded conservative, so one never knows. We just have to trust W and his team on this one.

Let us not forget, Roberts will not be President Bush's last SCOTUS appointment, either. Certainly Rehnquist won't be sitting there another 3 years, and I find it hard to belive Stevens will. (hopefully, that's not wishful thinking)


304 posted on 08/04/2005 9:47:46 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: FreeReign
"First, given the idealogical makeup of the senate, we may not have the luxury of a nominee who has proved his or her self to both you and I as a strict constructionist."

Look, Bush took no prisoners to get CAFTA and prescription drugs passed. If shipping jobs abroad and forcing me to pay for Teddy Kennedy's Viagra is enough to inspire such action, then judges should be too.

"Thus, most likely, Roberts is not a mystery to the President."

Uh, like when he looked into Putin's soul? Bush - despite some FReepers apparent thoughts to the contrary (not you specifically) - can make mistakes.
305 posted on 08/04/2005 9:50:14 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative
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To: EDINVA

I agree that I do not wish harm on any justices. Some of them though, deserve to retire, go on book tours, go abroad and read interesting rulings from foreign courts....

My main point is that when Bush really wants something (CAFTA, NCLB, Prescription drugs) he gets it done. I find it hard to believe if he wanted to appoint someone who was unambiguously conservative, he wouldn't do it and fight.


306 posted on 08/04/2005 9:53:04 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative
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To: U.H. Conservative

but I think Bush thinks Roberts IS conservative (of course, his dad thought the same of ole Dave)... I think Bush and his team honestly thought from the conservatives on their short list, Roberts was the brightest or most in tune with Bush. You know there was no winning with this appointment, either from the left or the right.

BTW, how does one retire from being God ????????


307 posted on 08/04/2005 9:58:32 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: U.H. Conservative
Look, Bush took no prisoners to get CAFTA and prescription drugs passed. If shipping jobs abroad and forcing me to pay for Teddy Kennedy's Viagra is enough to inspire such action, then judges should be too.

Bush took no prisoners on CAFTA and PD? More likely, Bush simply had the votes. (BTW, CAFTA good -- PD bad)

Uh, like when he looked into Putin's soul? Bush - despite some FReepers apparent thoughts to the contrary (not you specifically) - can make mistakes.

Uh-um, do you actually know the level of sincerity in Bush's remark about looking in Putin's soul? Perhaps, he really saw what a insincere _bag Putin was and was laying it on just as thick. If one looks at Bush's policies since that remark and subsequently since Putin's return to old Soviet form, it would be hard not to feel that Bush never trusted Putin one -- bit.

308 posted on 08/04/2005 10:01:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: xzins
What is the Constitutional logic that says that a lower court judge can stop an act of Congress duly signed by the President? Where does it say that? Where does it hint that that's what the Founders had in mind?

Amen.

Jefferson feared a judicial tyranny as much as a legislative and executive one.

309 posted on 08/04/2005 11:26:54 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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To: ZULU

VERY interesting, Zulu...thanks!

I gotta' say, I no longer feel as committed to seeing that he gets approved...I suspect he's another Souter, while I was hoping he's another Scalia.

But I really have my doubts now.

Thanks for telling us about Levin's comments.

Ed


310 posted on 08/05/2005 1:25:48 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: conserv13

Looks like BUSH sent in a Mole.


311 posted on 08/05/2005 1:30:12 AM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: jude24
It allowed all persons, public and private, in the State of Colorado to discriminate against homosexuals. This is a facial violation of the 14th Amendment.

No, you're reading it wrong. What the amendment did was forbid the passage of "sexual orientation" anti-discrimination laws. FYI, the 14th Amendment does not require states to pass laws which forbid sexual orientation discrimination. In fact, the 14th Amendment doesn't require states to pass any sort of law at all. So how on earth can it be unconstitutional for a state to decide that it *won't* pass laws that the constitution doesn't even *require* the states to pass in the first place?

312 posted on 08/05/2005 1:41:01 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: xzins
What is the Constitutional logic that says that a lower court judge can stop an act of Congress duly signed by the President?

Judges take an oath to support the Constitution, not to support Congress and the President.

313 posted on 08/05/2005 2:38:45 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Sandy

Where does the constitution say that a lower court judge has the power to overturn an act of Congress duly signed by the President.

What article, what section of the Constitution is that in?


314 posted on 08/05/2005 3:27:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
It's inherent in the judge's oath. The Constitution does not require a judge to enforce an unconstitutional law. However, the Constitution *does* require a judge to support the Constitution .

Suppose you're a federal judge. Congress has passed a law establishing Catholicism as the only religion allowed. Joe Blow gets indicted for practicing Judaism. The defendant arrives in your court for a bench trial and claims in his defense that Congress has no authority to pass such a law. What do you do?

315 posted on 08/05/2005 3:36:00 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Sandy

So, you are telling me that there is no place in the constitution that says that lower courts can overturn an act of congress.

Is there something wrong with the Supreme Court that they don't notice that establishing Catholicism as the official religion is contrary to the Constitution?

Also, the President and each Congressman ALSO take the same oath to uphold the Constitution. They could not pass such a law without realizing they were violating the 1st amendment.

So...why do we need a lower court judge to do this job. He is inferior to the Congress, created by the Congress, and answerable to the Congress?


316 posted on 08/05/2005 4:08:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
So, you are telling me that there is no place in the constitution that says that lower courts can overturn an act of congress.

No, I was telling you the complete opposite actually. "Overturning" a law is essentially just a court's way of saying, "The Constitution does not allow us to enforce this B.S."

Is there something wrong with the Supreme Court that they don't notice that establishing Catholicism as the official religion is contrary to the Constitution?

No, I suspect the Supreme Court would agree with the lower court if the case went that far.

the President and each Congressman ALSO take the same oath to uphold the Constitution. They could not pass such a law without realizing they were violating the 1st amendment.

Yeah right. As if Congress and the President give a flying fig about whether their laws violate the Constitution. Please. Have you seen the U.S. Code lately? :-)

why do we need a lower court judge to do this job. He is inferior to the Congress, created by the Congress, and answerable to the Congress?

We don't *need* them. Congress just decided this is the way we're going to do things. The alternative is to try federal cases in state courts. But state courts can refuse to enforce federal laws same as the federal courts can.

317 posted on 08/05/2005 4:37:53 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Ol' Sparky

he didn't do ANTHING except advise a COLLEAGUE in very general terms. he didn't argue the case, prepare ANY papers or briefs ANYTHING. Keep drinking your own frikin kool aide.


318 posted on 08/05/2005 5:24:39 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Then, you'll be pissing and moaning about what disaster the Supreme Court is when this guy gets on it and nothing changes.

NO because when most or all of the 5-4 decisions are going against people like Kennedy and Souter, I am going to look up EVERY one of the whiners on this thread and others and laugh and laugh and laugh....

It will probably be the best day I will ever have on FR.
319 posted on 08/05/2005 5:27:34 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: Ol' Sparky
I drink cherry Kool-Aid and is it ever good. You and your buddies just keep working to Bork Roberts and you'll get just what you deserve. Just think, you and Arlen Spector can be soulmates. Remember how that turned out???
320 posted on 08/05/2005 7:38:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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