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Roberts worked for gay rights activists
The Baltimore Sun ^ | 8/4/05 | Richard Serrano

Posted on 08/04/2005 7:24:32 AM PDT by conserv13

WASHINGTON - Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr. worked behind the scenes for a coalition of gay rights activists, and his legal expertise helped them persuade the Supreme Court to issue a landmark 1996 ruling protecting people against discrimination because of their sexual orientation.

Then a private lawyer in Washington specializing in appellate work, Roberts helped represent the gay activists as part of his pro bono work at his law firm. He did not write the legal briefs or argue the case before the high court; he was instrumental in reviewing the filings and preparing oral arguments, several lawyers intimately involved in the case said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; johnroberts; roberts; romervevans; scotus; stupidsubject; ussc
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To: MikeinIraq

It doesn't matter what you write because you offer no substance, just a lot of insecurity over this choice. You don't want to be proven wrong, so you tear down anyone who disagrees with you. It's really sad that you can't hold a conversation without acting like the village bozo.


81 posted on 08/04/2005 8:10:38 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: MikeinIraq
I don't necessarily agree with Coulter on this subject, but her statements regarding caution are well taken.

We are talking about an individual who will sit on that Court for twenty or more years.

We have been burned badly before.

So far, I like Roberts and think he will be a good candidate, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be watching things anyway.

I hope we all do.

We can expect surreptitious attacks from the left as well as genuine concerns expressed by legitimate conservatives on this appointment. It may not be possible to distinguish easily between the two, so we should be alert and cautious about accusations against this candidate.
82 posted on 08/04/2005 8:11:16 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: TheBigB; All
I searched for 'Roberts' and 'gay' and didn't see it. Sorry.

I'm not being a troll here, I just thought this was relevant.

83 posted on 08/04/2005 8:11:27 AM PDT by conserv13
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To: Rutles4Ever
It doesn't matter what you write because you offer no substance, just a lot of insecurity over this choice.

Guess what, neither did Ann. Neither has anyone but your Friend and mine, the LA TIMES. Interesting bedfellows I tell you what.

PROZAC 2 FOR 1 SALE!!!
84 posted on 08/04/2005 8:11:38 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: lady lawyer; All

Woaaaa... If this is true, I don't like this one bit! :(


85 posted on 08/04/2005 8:11:46 AM PDT by ElPatriota
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To: MikeinIraq
This judge is ardently pro-life for example...

Maybe he'll take some pro-bono work for NARAL, too, since he can separate his beliefs from his career.

86 posted on 08/04/2005 8:12:01 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: MikeinIraq; little jeremiah; All

Agreed. They were nearly hysterical pieces, so much so that I wondered if she really believed what she was saying.

And as you both have pointed out, he was working as a lawyer in a law firm. I don't think his work on this case is a real indication of how he would vote in any particular case that would cross his desk in the future.

And I say that as a trained lawyer (though I've never practiced). If someone came to me needing help, I would want to help them. It is the nature of the job, and of our legal system.

For example, defense attorneys might think their client is guilty of murder (and in fact, defense attorneys don't even want to know if their client is actually guilty, because if they do they can't put him on the stand in his own defense), but they will use all their training to exonerate him.

It's the way the system works.


87 posted on 08/04/2005 8:12:04 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: ShadowAce

Hi, SA. I agree.


88 posted on 08/04/2005 8:12:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: MikeinIraq

It is annoying, but being mean and laughing at people does not help. I think he is an excellent candidate, and is crafty and smart, maybe even cunning all done with a very happy smile on his face. He is Conservative and he has been a Lawyer for many years, and sometimes your bosses make you clean up crap. He has earned his Appointment and his Supreme Ct Judge Robes. I would caution everyone to hold your fire for now because the media know how to manipulate and get Conservatives at each other's throats.


89 posted on 08/04/2005 8:12:20 AM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: ZULU

I agree with that.

I also agree with being cautious.

but you can be OVERLY cautious as well.

Kind of like the sports analogy "playing not to win, but not to lose".


90 posted on 08/04/2005 8:12:52 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: biblewonk

Lots of entertainment in this thread. Thanks for the ping.


91 posted on 08/04/2005 8:12:53 AM PDT by newgeezer (Iowan since 1960. First-generation city boy.)
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To: jwalsh07

Romer is simply more of the same ole same ole, taking cultural issues out of the public square and letting the gods on the becnch decide. I hope to hell Roberts doesn't have that mindset."

I see no problem with an attorney advocating a position under the rules of the game at the time he's playing. That has no bearing on what his judicial philosophy will be. Would we have expected him to say, so that he would pass muster today, "I can't help you because I believe that the Constituition should be interpreted in X fashion, even though everyone else is interpreting it in Y fashion?" I would say that probably would not be a very good lawyer.


92 posted on 08/04/2005 8:12:53 AM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: MikeinIraq
I didn't say it was an only qualifier, just something to be considered. I happen to think the constitution protects the unborn, a radical view not even Scalia agrees with admittedly. But that's another story.

I'm pretty sure Roberts is a vote to overturn major parts of Roe and Doe v Bolton but I'm not sure because there is no record. So asking questions and being dubious is OK by me.

In fact, I see nothing wrong with either side asking potential justices about their personal morality and if and how it would affect their interpretation of constitutional law. I'm especially interested in the radical secualar humanist derivation of morality as it pertains to law and the constitution.

93 posted on 08/04/2005 8:15:03 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
I'm especially interested in the radical secualar humanist derivation of morality as it pertains to law and the constitution.

Heh. Well I am pretty sure we don't have that here....
94 posted on 08/04/2005 8:16:05 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

"We know he supports Roe v. Wade as precedent and "settled law"."

No we don't. We know he said something along those lines as part of the tapdance that all Supreme Court nominees must engage in to lessen the probability of a nuclear battle.

"We know he did pro bono work for the gay lobby."

We know very little factually on this issue, and even if he did, it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

"We know he's "open-minded"."

Wow. That's pretty damning. What's the context of that "quote?"


95 posted on 08/04/2005 8:17:07 AM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: samantha
I would caution everyone to hold your fire for now because the media know how to manipulate and get Conservatives at each other's throats.

yes they do. it's worked too unfortunately. Ann Coulter included, in this case.
96 posted on 08/04/2005 8:17:19 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: republicofdavis

I think attorneys should do their job period, just like everybody else. It's the pro bono thing that bothers me a bit. Lawyers, I would think as a rule (but I could be wrong here), only accept pro bono constitutional cases when they agree with the desired outcome. No?


97 posted on 08/04/2005 8:17:19 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jtminton
How many people here would stand by everything they did ten years ago?

Good point, and that probably prevents a lot of good people from considering public service.

98 posted on 08/04/2005 8:18:15 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: jwalsh07

Scalia thinks the constitution doesn't protect the lives of the unborn?


99 posted on 08/04/2005 8:18:46 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: MikeinIraq
Heh. Well I am pretty sure we don't have that here....

LOL, certainly not but I'd pay an admission to fee to hear the answer to that question from the likes of Justice Ginsburg.

100 posted on 08/04/2005 8:18:49 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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