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John Roberts Helped Advance the Homosexual Agenda (Editorial)
Blue Mass Group ^ | 8/4/05

Posted on 08/04/2005 9:10:32 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

It was reported today in the LA Times that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts gave substantial behind the scenes assistance, pro bono, to activists who asked the Supreme Court to overturn Colorado's 'Amendment 2' which prohibited municipalities in Colorado from adopting gay friendly ordinances and policies.

The case Romer v. Evans, was the gay movements fist significant victory in the Supreme Court and paved the way for the more recent blockbuster decision of Lawrence v. Texas which outlawed sodomy laws.

What to make of this? Is Roberts a clandestine agent of the dreaded homosexual agenda? More likely, he was just doing his job.

A partner at Roberts firm was working with the plaintiffs in Romer; and the parter asked for Roberts help, (Roberts being the best Supreme Court litigant) and Roberts agreed.

And having agreed, he gave his all, reviewing briefs, preparing lawyers for oral arguement, and generally being 'terrifically helpful.' That is exactly what lawyers are supposed to do.

This is, an excellent illustration of how difficult it is to discern a lawyer's views from his professional activities. I have no idea whether Roberts believed in his heart that the plaintiffs in Romer were right, but I will say this.

It is of course always open to a lawyer to decline to participate in a case because for whatever reason the lawyer cannot in good consicence represent the client's interests in that case.

The fact that Roberts agreed to participate in Romer at least suggests that he is not vicerally, fundamentally opposed to the pro-gay result that the planitffs sought in that case.

And that, to me, suggests that he may not be the ideaologue that the Dobsonites want on the court. (Can you imagine in the plaintiffs in a gay rights case had approached Professor Scalia for his pro-bono assistance?)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; johnroberts; lawrencevtexas; romervevans; scotus
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To: dmw

Rush explained the case well, but seems to e trying to stay away from the fight and not engage.


101 posted on 08/04/2005 11:20:19 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: sharkhawk
Let's say the Dims filibuster, how much pressure will be spent by a split right to push to break it. The way some on FR on talking, they are hoping the Dims will Filibuster.

If they don't, we'll know they got their Souter.
102 posted on 08/04/2005 11:21:26 AM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: Gabz
Improperly worded amendments are worth about as much as unconstitutional ones. Just because you agree with a particular amendment does not mean it can not be struck down for legitimate reasons.

Here's a link to the Romer decision.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/romer.html

Read the decision and Scalia's dissent and see if you can find any constitutional basis for the Court's decision other than, 'we're the Supremes and we think this is a bad law. Therefore, it has to be in the constitution.'

103 posted on 08/04/2005 11:22:04 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: stevio

Wrong, Rush said most people (conservatives) do not hate homosexuals and that is true. Most people want homosexuals to stay away from kids, quit flaunting depravity as normal, quit trying to bastardize marriage, quit trying to have special rights, and to just grow up. Hate is not Christian or conservative, it is for most Dems, who have little or no faith. a really Fine example is DU, they are so hate filled they are insane.


104 posted on 08/04/2005 11:22:37 AM PDT by samantha (Cheer up, the adults are in charge.)
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To: perez24
Why do I have the suspicion that this is an attempt to get conservatives to oppose the nomination?"""

Yes, by all means, let's no know anything about what he's done or what causes he's supported, because that might be "an attempt to get conservatives to oppose the nomination." We conservatives should be deaf, dumb and blind to any facts that might suggest Roberts is not conservative. Bah, Bah, Bah, Sheeple!

105 posted on 08/04/2005 11:24:08 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: golfboy
Wow, so does this mean that Judge Roberts believes everyone deserves their day in court with adequate representation?"""

That's not clear. What it does mean indisputably, is that he leant his talents -- free of charge -- to a radical gay-rights legal crusade.

106 posted on 08/04/2005 11:25:12 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: COEXERJ145
Of course those who worship Ann Coulter and those who hate President Bush will be drawn to an LA Slimes story like flies to sh*t since it will give them something else to whine about.

What ignorant bilge.

107 posted on 08/04/2005 11:25:33 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: NCLaw441

So you think Roberts was looking at the case from that angle?


108 posted on 08/04/2005 11:25:37 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Labyrinthos
Under the rules of professional ethics, an attorney can't turn down a case he or she is otherwise qualified to handle, simply because the attorney disagrees with the client's position.

He can if its pro bono.

109 posted on 08/04/2005 11:27:11 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Thank you again.


110 posted on 08/04/2005 11:27:37 AM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: gopwinsin04

I was thinking of Roberts' response to the senate question about precedent. One can respect precedent, including cases that overruled prior Supreme Court cases, including Lawrence vs. Texas, Brown vs. Board, etc. I don't know what Roberts' involvement was in the case he assisted on in an unsigned capacity. Intellectuals such as Roberts often are more interested in the argument and its form than the substance of it. Roberts is about the law, not policy, and that is as it should be, IMO.


111 posted on 08/04/2005 11:29:03 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: gopwinsin04
The case Romer v. Evans, was the gay movements fist significant victory

Was this a Freudian slip or a flip of the verbal wrist?

112 posted on 08/04/2005 11:29:24 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: darkangel82
The DUmmies are watching us and laughing: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4256358

They should be. Odds are, they have themselves another Souter. They have managed to void the R victory in the presidency and the Senate. Not a bad trick--they should be breaking out the champagne.

113 posted on 08/04/2005 11:30:15 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: gopwinsin04

The trouble is that the strategy to pick a nominee with no paper trail cuts both ways.

And, call me unreasonably paranoid, but the administration has talked a bigger game than they've delivered on social issues.

If the reliable justices haven't come from Roberts' background. But they haven't.


114 posted on 08/04/2005 11:32:07 AM PDT by ProfessorPaz (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: samantha
I repeat. Rush has been neutered by the homosexual lobby. Example; When "The Philly 7" were being persecuted by the DA for protesting a gay pride event, an obvious encroachment of the groups civil rights, Rush said nothing about it. I even got through to the call screener and was told that Rush didn't think his audience wanted to hear about it! Don't get me wrong, I love Rush but understand he has been voluntarily or involuntarily silenced by the homos.
115 posted on 08/04/2005 11:36:29 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: ProfessorPaz

You are unreasonably paranoid. Too many on this thread are on the fringe. Could we please stop behaving like Pat Buchanan reactionaries? Wait for the freaking confirmation hearings before picking the fly crap out of pepper just because you can.


116 posted on 08/04/2005 11:57:00 AM PDT by samantha (Cheer up, the adults are in charge.)
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To: stevio

Rush has not been silenced at all. Rush is sucessful at what he does because he does not bore the hell out of his audience by overkill on subjects that only a small portion of his audience are obsessed with. Most of his audience are conservative on a number of issues, they are not just anti-gay, and it is too early in this nomination to obsess and make everyone upset. We need to be pragmatic and not bitch about every single thing that comes up, especially when we know the LA Slimes record of hating conservatives. They are probably reading this thread like the DUmmies and are getting a good laugh at the over-reaction hysteria on this thread.


117 posted on 08/04/2005 12:08:31 PM PDT by samantha (Cheer up, the adults are in charge.)
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To: samantha

Go here and see if you think this didn't deserve mentioning. BTW it was eventually thrown out by a higher court, but this went on for a while.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335699/posts


118 posted on 08/04/2005 12:16:40 PM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: churchillbuff

Sean Hannity is discussing this right now.


119 posted on 08/04/2005 12:19:15 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: samantha
You are unreasonably paranoid. So what has this administration delivered?
120 posted on 08/04/2005 12:41:54 PM PDT by ProfessorPaz (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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