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To: Panerai; F14 Pilot
[Quoting article] ""people like Michael Moore, who makes a perfectly good brownshirt [fascist]"

Good one

Concurring bump. It's interesting that he should color Moore's shirt brown, when I thought it would more nearly be a red one, like the old socialist leagues of the 30's......as William Shirer tells us, back then all the political groupings had street gangs, gangs of toughs who competed and fought for "turf". In Collapse of the Third Republic he describes the rightist Croix de Feu, the monarchists, the socialists, the communists.......and the Italian fascists wore black shirts, and German ones wore brown shirts, except for the SS, who wore black. I always thought Moore would make a communist or a socialist.

Or maybe a slobist.

Fascinating that Hitchens sees him as a fascist.

35 posted on 08/05/2005 7:31:01 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

The SS was not a collection of street toughs, or brawlers like the SA. It was an elite group dedicated to Hitler while the SA were socialistic ex-soldiers devoted to Ernst Rohm. When it came time to deal with Rohm and the SA the SS were the ones who pulled the triggers.

The SS was modeled on the Jesuits in terms of organization and indoctrination. It is interesting that Hitler never wore the black shirt but always the brown uniform of the SA even after the Night of the Long Knives.


41 posted on 08/05/2005 7:48:37 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Fascinating that Hitchens sees him as a fascist.

One man's communist is another man's fascist. :-P

But frankly, I don't think there was much of an essential difference between commies and fascists. The ideology of both groups was based on collectivism, and the motivation of both was power-lust.

65 posted on 08/05/2005 10:10:41 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Don't let them take things away from you on behalf of the public good!)
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