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Iran shipping Iraqi rebels powerful bombs, NBC says
UPI via Iran Focus ^ | 2005 Aug 5

Posted on 08/05/2005 2:16:59 AM PDT by Wiz

Iran is shipping more powerful and sophisticated military-caliber bombs to Iraqi guerrillas for use against U.S.-led coalition forces, NBC News reported yesterday.

Citing U.S. military and intelligence officials, the network said U.S. soldiers intercepted a large shipment of high explosives last week, smuggled into northeastern Iraq from Iran.

"The officials say the shipment contained dozens of 'shaped charges' manufactured recently. Shaped charges are especially lethal because they're designed to concentrate and direct a more powerful blast into a small area," NBC reported.

"They'll go right through a very heavily armored vehicle like an M1-A1 tank from one side right out the other side," retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey told the network.

Military officials said insurgents in Iraq began using shaped charges to kill U.S. forces three months ago. Recent weeks have brought a spate of deadlier roadside-bomb attacks on U.S. forces.

In one attack earlier this week, 14 U.S. Marines were killed inside a 28-ton armored vehicle that would be immune from most improvised explosive devices, but vulnerable to shaped charges, which were developed by militaries worldwide specifically to pierce armor.

(Excerpt) Read more at iranfocus.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; islamist; mnf; oif; terrorism; terrorist
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1 posted on 08/05/2005 2:17:03 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: U S Army EOD

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2 posted on 08/05/2005 2:17:38 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Wiz

Time to return to sender, a shaped charge of our own. I like the shape of a MOAB.


3 posted on 08/05/2005 2:22:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: Wiz

It is hard for me to believe that an external explosive could penetrate an M-1 from one side to the other. OTOH if this is true I can see the WOT expanding a little to the east of Baghdad.


4 posted on 08/05/2005 2:25:50 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Wiz

Time to put an end to Iran's reign of terror.


5 posted on 08/05/2005 2:27:41 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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To: DoctorZIn; derheimwill; Entebbe; Evolution; freedom44; nuconvert

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6 posted on 08/05/2005 2:33:42 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Wiz

Religion of peace my arse BUMP!


7 posted on 08/05/2005 2:33:58 AM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: Wiz

Looks like it's time to move 70% of our forces to the border regions of Iraq and focus on stopping the flow of foreign fighters and explosives into Iraq. Let the Iraqis handle the insurgents who are already in the country. If we choke off the flow of men and material, the insurgency will die.


8 posted on 08/05/2005 2:35:24 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: thoughtomator
Time to return to sender, a shaped charge of our own. I like the shape of a MOAB.

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I kind of like the shape of this charge. Gen. McCaffery might say "It'll go right through a very militant Islamic country like an Iran from one side right out the other side." It's got "Welcome to Paradise" written all over it.

9 posted on 08/05/2005 2:38:11 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: eastforker
. . . if this is true I can see the WOT expanding a little to the east of Baghdad.

Intelligence officials believe the explosives were shipped into Iraq by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard or the terrorist group Hezbollah . . .

I'm wondering to which group(s) of Iraqi guerrillas the explosives were shipped.  Not a stretch for me to believe Iran is studying us and playing much the same kind of role we played against the Soviets in Afghanistan.  Just who are they supporting and why?

But, the reference to Hezbollah is . . . for me . . . puzzling.  What's the payoff for them?

10 posted on 08/05/2005 2:48:23 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

Simple, they want us out of the area, as long as we are in Iraq and Afghanistan we pose a real threat to Iran. They are playing to the emotions of the dummies. GW will be gone in three years and the 06 election is drawing close. They are hoping to influence these elections.


11 posted on 08/05/2005 3:13:21 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Racehorse; eastforker

Per a NYTimes article:

"Bomb-making techniques used by the anti-Israeli militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon have increasingly begun appearing in roadside bombs in Iraq. A senior American commander said bombs using shaped charges closely matched the bombs that Hezbollah used against Israel.

"Our assessment is that they are probably going off to school" to learn how to make bombs that can destroy armored vehicles, the officer said."



Lt. Gen. John Vines IIRC said this.


12 posted on 08/05/2005 3:44:35 AM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy"...I mean, JOHN ROBERTS now fills this space!)
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To: endthematrix

The NBC report says the bombs "most likely" with the consent of Iran.What kind of reporting is that?Most likely,wheres the proof ?


13 posted on 08/05/2005 4:03:12 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Wiz

Attach a detonator to the entire shipment and return it to the sender, NOW!!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 08/05/2005 4:03:25 AM PDT by Recon Dad
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To: fortheDeclaration
"Time to put an end to Iran's reign of terror."

I've had it with 'em.

Time to tell these yahoos that either this stops PRONTO or they're next. If they snort.........just say "Hey, have two words for ya: Saddam Hussein."

15 posted on 08/05/2005 4:08:42 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: endthematrix
Thanks

"Our assessment is that they are probably going off to school" to learn how to make bombs that can destroy armored vehicles, the officer said."

Smells right to me.

Wonder what schooling we're getting, though.

The U.S. Army has a Lessons Learned program stretching back to at least WWII.  Wonder what they might have publicly available?

16 posted on 08/05/2005 4:13:13 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: eastforker
It is hard for me to believe that an external explosive could penetrate an M-1

IN early 1997, Lawrence Livermore successfully tested a shaped charge that penetrated 3.4 meters of high-strength armor steel.

Shaped Charge

17 posted on 08/05/2005 4:20:22 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Recon Dad
You know folks, we're going to need a casus belli to do an Osirak job on that nuclear reactor that the Iranians have. I mean, I wonder if they're stupid enough to actually provide it to us.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

18 posted on 08/05/2005 4:33:00 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Joe Miner

If they are using the type of charges mentioned in that article it is definately state sponsored. To penetrate over ten feet of armor steel is quite a fete in itself. Not something Achmed the camel jockey could assemble.


19 posted on 08/05/2005 4:37:37 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: eastforker
Need to make HEAT warheads obsolete with that British electronic armour.
20 posted on 08/05/2005 5:08:24 AM PDT by agere_contra
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