[servingchrist]

What do you folks here think about this? Are We the People the enemy, are we still properly represented?

[Tench_Coxe]

"What do you folks here think about this? Are We the People the enemy, are we still properly represented?"

I am of the belief that we are nearing the end of that awkward period Clair Wolfe has written about. I don't like the thought of that, but there it is.

[Semper911]

Breaking news?

[SmithL]

Welcome to Free Republic. I think Nancy Levant has her tinfoil hat a little too tight.

[Revolting cat!]

[skimbell]

Bolton.

[dead]

I get responses that 1) don’t address any of the points I made in my letters, and 2) I am told in no uncertain terms why the Patriot Act, CAFTA, and other legislation will, in fact, be supported.

That's because, on most controversial issues, there's somebody writing letters to the congressmen expressing the complete opposite opinion of another letter writer.

It's impossible for a politician to do as every letter writer tells him to do. Obviously.

My Senators are Jon Corzine and the late Frank Lautenberg. How often do you think they've voted as I've told them I would like them to vote?

The trick is to try to get people who agree with you elected, which is sometimes successful. Or hand them shitloads of money, which is usually more effective.

[Revolting cat!]

[dead]

Many bills are now written in preparation of what is clearly a coming Police State, which speaks volumes to the notion of pre-planned catastrophe and crisis.

The shit is really going to hit the fan on New Year's Eve 1999, when the computers get confused and chemical plants explode and the nukes are launched.

[GrandEagle]

We are not the enemy. We have failed to require that our representatives abide by their oath to protect and defend our Constitution.
We should have fired them anytime they stepped outside the Constitution - even if what they did we like.

The Republic of The United States of America is gone. We are so far from a Constitutionally functioning government that I don't think it is possible to recover. Most people have not even read the Constitution.
We presently live in a police state where for the time being the authorities allow us a large measure of freedom. That could change at the whim of any of our "elected" officials. As my parents grew up and for the most part when I grew up, we were free because "we the people" did not allow the government the power to prevent it.
It is much like living under a good king, we enjoy freedoms but we do so at the whim of the king.
The current crop of "leaders" have handed our enemies their victory on a silver platter. They simply need to attack every few years then sit back and watch us hemorrhage.
Like the writer, I too have written my representatives. They quit even responding about two years ago.
I fear that the only way to slow our demise is to simply swap them out. No matter who is in office vote them out - period, no exception.

[YOUGOTIT]

"What do you folks here think about this? Are We the People the enemy, are we still properly represented?"

We live in a representative Republic. Unlike what is taught in government schools that we live in a representative democracy. The people we elect take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, not to vote the way their constituents want them to. If we do not like the way they vote then we should not send them back to Washington. However, their primary oath and responsibility is to the country not to their constituents. I know of only one democracy and that was over 2,400 years ago in Athens. It did not work then and has never worked.

I agree that they have become wimps who do not support their oath of office (democrats want to establish a dicatatoprship for and destroy all who appose them) but there is no other government in this world that is as good. We enjoy freedoms that others only dream about. The people in the so called 1st world (EU and Canada) are really living in the 2nd and 3rd worlds and will never enjoy our standard of living or our freedoms.

If we want to change then elect people who will strictly enforce the Constitution. And they will appoint judges that enforce the Constitution and not make their own laws in direct violation of the supreme law the Constitution.

[diverteach]

NO! We are not represented. Greed has taken over Washington, and big business, special interest groups along with thier lobbyists are now the only people represented by our govt. We may still put them into office, or so it may seem. The MSM pulls most of the strings when it comes to getting the people in to power that they want and need to further thier agenda. Largely, in most part it's biased toward the liberals, and each one with thier own, sometimes seemingly insignificant contribution to furthering a socialist agenda which, in the end, includes a "New World Order".
I believe that while most people know that somethings just aren't right with the way our politicians run things, deep down, either they don't want to see and believe what is really going on or just can't admit to the truth that what should be impossible to do to our constitution and protection of our rights, is possible, and could very well be happening right under our noses and in your face.

[joesnuffy]

Tommy Thompson just joined the board of Digital Angel and got
himself 'chipped'...

The Future..It's all about people control now..

And social change through crisis management...War on Terror

Borders left open during a time of War on Terror..kind of a counter productive tactic...

Unless you need a crisis to mangage

imo

[digger48]

Are We, the People, the Enemy?

Hillary wouldn't be lying so much these days if SHE didn't think so.

[Paul_Denton]

In before the zot!

[Revolting cat!]

An enemy kit!

[o_zarkman44]

Lets see....... backpack searches, national id cards, patriot act, vehicle checkpoints (aka sobriety checks)
GPS in our cell phones, anti 2nd Amendment legislation, campaign finance laws that suppress common people from speaking out about candidates....

Looks to me like government is more interested in protecting it's power base than it is protecting we the people.
So the answer is, yes. We the people are the enemy to those corrupt officials in power, elected and unelected.
they will do EVERYTHING to stay in power. How many people associated with the Clintons died under unusual or bizarre circumstances??? Then theres coverup Conditt. McCains Keating 5. Chappaquidic Kennedy etc. How these people continue to be influential "leaders???" is the kicker.

[tfecw]

Ping for later read

[vpintheak]

Hey Nancy,
thank your friendly neighborhood socialists. And the weak-kneed sissies who listen to their crap. I don't take it anymore.

[philman_36]

Are We, the People, the Enemy?
From the short list of things there, and with all of the things that could be added to it it's a very short list
...YES is the obvious answer.
One thing not on the list that should be is the declared War on Drugs. A portion of the population has already been publicly declared as the enemy.
It surely can't be too far away that the portional percentage increases.
There's the smokers, and then there's the overweight, then there's...well, you get the picture.
Simply consider this...
TITLE 22 > CHAPTER 35 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 2551
Congressional statement of purpose
An ultimate goal of the United States is a world which is free from the scourge of war and the dangers and burdens of armaments; in which the use of force has been subordinated to the rule of law; and in which international adjustments to a changing world are achieved peacefully. It is the purpose of this chapter to provide impetus toward this goal by addressing the problem of reduction and control of armaments looking toward ultimate world disarmament.
The Secretary of State must have the capacity to provide the essential scientific, economic, political, military, psychological, and technological information upon which realistic arms control, nonproliferation, and disarmament policy must be based. The Secretary shall have the authority, under the direction of the President, to carry out the following primary functions:
(1) The preparation for and management of United States participation in international negotiations and implementation fora in the arms control, nonproliferation, and disarmament field.
(2) The conduct, support, and coordination of research for arms control, nonproliferation, and disarmament policy formulation.
(3) The preparation for, operation of, or direction of, United States participation in such control systems as may become part of United States arms control, nonproliferation, and disarmament activities.
(4) The dissemination and coordination of public information concerning arms control, nonproliferation, and disarmament.
The "Notes" page is interesting reading.

And crucial to § 2551 is...
TITLE 22 > CHAPTER 35 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 2552
Definitions
As used in this chapter— (that's Chapter 35)
(a) The terms “arms control” and “disarmament” mean the identification, verification, inspection, limitation, control, reduction, or elimination, of armed forces and armaments of all kinds under international agreement including the necessary steps taken under such an agreement to establish an effective system of international control, or to create and strengthen international organizations for the maintenance of peace.
(b) The term “Government agency” means any executive department, commission, agency, independent establishment, corporation wholly or partly owned by the United States which is an instrumentality of the United States, or any board, bureau, division, service, office, officer, authority, administration, or other establishment in the executive branch of Government.

Move along, nothing to see here.