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US Requires to Retool Strategy to Win Iraq War(Decades & 100's of billions?)
Daily Times(Pakistan) ^ | 8/6/2005 | Jim Krane

Posted on 8/7/2005, 12:33:41 PM by kellynla

WINNING the war in Iraq will require at least a decade of US military involvement, spending hundreds of billions of dollars, and adopting a new strategy that would see more US troops killed, a top military analyst in Washington has said. Andrew Krepinevich, director of the Center for Strategic Assessments, said the US military has little chance of winning the counterinsurgency war in Iraq unless it focuses on protecting Iraqi civilians, instead of killing guerrillas.

The strategy, outlined in an essay in the influential journal Foreign Affairs, would also quash the Bush administration proposal proposals to cut the number of US troops in Iraq to 60,000 in a year.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytimes.com.pk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; war
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1 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:33:42 PM by kellynla
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To: kellynla

I don't know if this guy is right or not. Honestly, only time will tell and I am sure people could debate it for days.

However, we SHOULD be willing to get the job done and get it done right. Otherwise we might have to do it again down the road.


2 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:36:22 PM by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: kellynla
unless it focuses on protecting Iraqi civilians, instead of killing guerrillas.

IMHO this guy is an idiot. Playing defense? SOunds like a demoncrat strategy to me.

3 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:42:59 PM by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: kellynla
Much the same as his Domestic Policy, President Bush demonstrates his personal difficulties with grasping the concept of "Sealed Borders".
4 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:43:02 PM by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!)
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To: MikeinIraq

well there is no doubt in my military mind that this guy is full of XXXX. the only way to defeat terrorists is offensibly, you cannot defend against them. and the more of them that we kill in iraq and the rest of the middle east, the fewer we will have to kill here.


5 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:43:53 PM by fatrat
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To: fatrat

without a doubt...

however I was referring more to his dire predictions of never winning for decades and billions upon billions spent and all that....

only time is going to be the judge of that.

We will see, as I said.


6 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:45:25 PM by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: kellynla

Another Clinton chronie speaks....


7 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:45:27 PM by Always Right
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To: MikeinIraq
I don't know if this guy is right or not.

Considering the guy is a Clinton-man, it can be taken with a sack of salt.

8 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:46:29 PM by Always Right
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To: Always Right

I take ANY prediction with a sack of salt :)

like those that predict the weather....those who think Palmeiro should/should not be in the hall of fame, and all that....


More or less throwing down a prediction as such has as much basis as my trying to predict the 2009 College Football National Champion (OHio State by the way :))


9 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:48:00 PM by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: fatrat
the more of them that we kill in iraq and the rest of the middle east, the fewer we will have to kill here.

And that my FRiend is the only reason for being there.
The rest is a feel good cover story.

10 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:48:13 PM by ASA Vet (Line the border with trebuchets.)
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To: kellynla

If you don't kill the terrorists today,
the terrorists will have another day.


11 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:48:26 PM by Wiz
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To: MikeinIraq

I always cringe when a "top military analyst" who is not a player in the game has the answer.


12 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:48:43 PM by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: fatrat

How long will it be before every hothead muslim extremist in the Middle East blows himself up, gets killed or gets captured in Iraq.

In my opinion, it is not going to take much longer before their numbers are sufficiently attrited. Let them all in. Open the borders.

If we can then stop the hothead Imams from preaching more hate and generating more followers, then step 1 in the war on terror would have been won.

The entire religion has to reform in step two. Sounds impossible? Well, it appears that it is already happening and US efforts are helping that. It is the only choice we've got anyway.


13 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:51:34 PM by JustDoItAlways
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To: verity

yeah.

I mean even the generals on the ground don't really have a grasp on what is going to happen 6 months from now.

Honestly, its hard to keep it going like that from week to week....


14 posted on 8/7/2005, 12:56:49 PM by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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To: JustDoItAlways
How long will it be before every hothead muslim extremist in the Middle East blows himself up, gets killed or gets captured in Iraq.

So this is what our strategy has come to?

We will continue to send our sons and daughters to this hellhole to serve as roadside targets until every goat-f'in A'rab exterminates himself? Have y'all taken a headcount lately?

Ain't gonna happen.

A day of reckoning is not far off for the bumblers that led us into this quagmire.

15 posted on 8/7/2005, 1:20:12 PM by iconoclast (They Just Don't Get It ... by Colonel David Hunt. Get it. Read it.)
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To: kellynla
Darken the windows of humvees. Travel in convoys, radio-controlling some unmanned humvees from other humvees that are manned.

The insurgents would need to guess which humvee carries the troops or need to set up 2 or more IEDs.

BTW, have we heard from the
"Humvees should have had more armor from the beginning"
people lately?

16 posted on 8/7/2005, 1:22:18 PM by syriacus (Embryos -- Special enough that researchers want a lot of them; not special enough to deserve to live)
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To: iconoclast
We will continue to send our sons and daughters to this hellhole to serve as roadside targets

My son-in-law, who's in his thirties, left for bootcamp this week. No one sent him. He signed up voluntarily.

17 posted on 8/7/2005, 1:24:24 PM by syriacus (Embryos -- Special enough that researchers want a lot of them; not special enough to deserve to live)
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To: MikeinIraq
However, we SHOULD be willing to get the job done and get it done right. Otherwise we might have to do it again down the road.

I agee. We shouldn't abandon the children of Iraq to decades of nasty rulers, like we abandoned the children of Vietnam.

18 posted on 8/7/2005, 1:27:09 PM by syriacus (Embryos -- Special enough that researchers want a lot of them; not special enough to deserve to live)
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To: kellynla

read later


19 posted on 8/7/2005, 1:28:38 PM by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: iconoclast; Coop; Allegra; Darksheare
led us into this quagmire.

AND for those that stood on the sideline and bitched the entire time too.....
20 posted on 8/7/2005, 1:29:06 PM by MikefromOhio (When Judge Roberts is confirmed, FR will be EXTREMELY funny that day...Get your PROZAC here!!!)
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