So you think maybe she had voluntary sex with 1-3 guys and decided to look for more or commit suicide? Why did the three lie about dropping her off at the HI? How did she disappear, voluntarily? LOGIC.
And this is important to you, why? The use of the word "definitely"? Would "probably" be more to your liking?
Do you believe that "any sex was definitely against her will"? If so, why?
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See post # 64 by GarySpFC.
The point is that since many 18 year old girls are known to volunatrily engage in sex you can't assert that "any sex was definitely agaisnt her will" without any corroborating evidence. Do you believe that "any sex was definitely against her will"? If so, why?
Defenitely, I can't, and neither can you say that she willingly agreed to sex. Since neither one of us can say for sure, I'll give you my reasons why I believe, if there was any sex involved, it was against her will.
1. She had just met the boys.
2. The environment (in a car in a foreign land) was not conducive to such an act.
3. I've come to learn about Nat in these threads and elsewhere and believe her to have high moral values.
4. On a first encounter it's very unlikely for a girl to have sex with three guys or with just one while the other two watch.
5. If she had sex willingly, that would have been it and each party would have gone their way. The fact that she disappeared is a good indication that she resisted and may have been killed for doing so.
Parzival,
Are you new on this thread? I was not in Aruba that night with Natalee or you either. All eighteen year old girls morals, are not reflected in your random sample hypothesis.
I am a sporting and betting man. I will truthfully say and bet Natalee was a young lady of high morals, integrity and character above reproach.
I would suggest, if this incident had been about consensual sex between Urine and Natalee. Well Natalee would still be here with us. These concocted lies that these three pieces of human excretement have constantly purported,reek of rape and murder to the tenth degree.
I call to mind the size of Deepak's small automobile, the compostion of Urine's extremely large frame. Now do you
honestly think a girl of Natalee's upbringing would be engaging in consensual sex in the back seat of a thimble?
I would whole heartedly say a forced rape/murder occurred in that back seat, but not consensual sex by any means.
You have a right to your opinion in this travesty of justice and possible rape homicide. This thread is Pro-Natalee Holloway and 99%-100% I do not appreciate any slams against our missing/murdered daughter.
I hope you understand my point in this matter. I ask you to get on board, The Good Ship "we support Natalee."
To put this politely, either you are with us or against on this tragic event that has befallen one of our American Daughters.
In closing, knock and the door shall be opened, seek and ye shall find and ask and ye shall receive. Please join us in the quest for truth and justice for Natalee Holloway, "One of Americca's Finest."
So Mote It Be,
NSNR
Here we go again. This speculation is only semantics, word games, that lead no where. One or two posts on the topic, maybe but on and on and on and on.... If you make a statement, people refute, rebut and move on. You are not really changing any minds, only trying to justify your original comment.