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Time to get real about enforcing immigration laws
Christian Science Monitor ^ | August 8, 2005 | David R. Francis

Posted on 08/07/2005 11:35:29 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

If Washington really wanted to, it could decidedly shrink the number of immigrants illegally crossing the borders and living in the United States: Just enforce the law.

As it is, immigration law appears tough. But illegal immigrants and their employers can easily avoid being caught. Given that there are more than 10 million undocumented residents (a number growing by about 500,000 a year), the chances of an illegal immigrant being deported are minuscule. In 2003, only 445 undocumented workers were arrested at a job site in the US. That's out of a total population of 6.3 million illegal workers (a number that excludes nonworking spouses and children).

"We must replace the old 'nudge nudge, wink wink' system - overly strict laws that we can't, and in many cases don't even try to, uphold - with a new bargain: realistic laws, enforced to the letter," said Tamar Jacoby, a senior fellow with the Manhattan Institute, at a Senate hearing late last month.

Americans would like Congress to tackle illegal immigration.

"There does seem to be, post-9/11, greater resistance to immigration," says Ana Maria Arumi, research director for Public Agenda in New York.

A recent survey of 1,004 adults by that nonpartisan public policy group found that tightening immigration ranked second among a list of proposals to improve US security. (Improving intelligence operations topped the list.) Three quarters of respondents gave the US a "C" or worse in protecting US borders. Nearly one-quarter gave a failing grade.

The public may still like the idealistic inscription on the Statue of Liberty: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...." To this, Americans have added, "but not your potential terrorists."

Reacting to such concerns, Congress passed the Real ID Act this spring. It requires states to design their driver's licenses to meet federal antiterrorist standards by 2008. Identification documents, such as passports or Social Security cards, are to be checked against federal databases.

Also, two major immigration bills are before Congress, and President Bush has proposed a guest-worker immigration plan.

Whether Congress will pass a new law this year is unknown. Immigration restrictions will be opposed by law firms and others that make their living from immigrants, churches hoping to acquire new members from abroad, and businesses that benefit from illegal workers' low wages.

A massive national sweep to deport illegal immigrants is unrealistic. "[T]he dirty secret is that we couldn't deport 10 million illegal immigrants if we wanted to," Sen. John Cornyn (R) of Texas has noted. He's an author of the more stern of the two bills before Congress.

For one reason, it would be costly. A new study by Rajeev Goyle and David A. Jaeger for the Center for American Progress in Washington calculates the cost of mass deportation to be at least $206 billion over five years. The annual cost of $41 billion would exceed the entire budget of the Department of Homeland Security ($34.2 billion) and would be more than double the annual spending on border and transportation security ($19.3 billion).

The study calculates the costs of apprehension, detention, legal processing, and transportation to countries of origin. It assumes that 20 percent of illegal immigrants would leave voluntarily.

Given the horror stories that would arise from a forced exodus, it would soon be a political impossibility.

So, some suggest, the only alternative is some form of legalization of the illegal immigrants. But don't call it "amnesty," which is a highly unpopular idea.

An alternative strategy would involve making it harder for immigrants to find and keep jobs in the US by enforcing the law against hiring illegal immigrants.

"Cracking down on employers is important," says Mr. Goyle. "If jobs were less available [to illegal immigrants], presumably fewer people would come" across US borders without valid documents or overstay their legal visas.

A plan by Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, would combine an increase in conventional enforcement - arrests, prosecutions, deportations, asset seizures, etc. - with expanded use of a system for verifying the status of new employees and those applying for a mortgage, car loan, or driver's license. The idea would be "to make it as difficult and unpleasant as possible to live here illegally," he says.

If the plan were implemented, Mr. Krikorian says, it would prompt illegals to deport themselves, gradually reducing the illegal population. "There must be an end to the climate of impunity for border jumping, and illegal employment, and fake documents, and immigration fraud," he adds.

The Real ID Act could establish de facto a national identification system. An existing experimental system for verifying the legal status of new hires could be made compulsory, rather than voluntary. Employers should face real penalties for hiring illegal immigrants, not slaps on the wrist.

The problem with the two major bills before Congress, the other being that of Sens. John McCain (R) of Arizona and Edward Kennedy (D) of Massachusetts, is that they assume a federal bureaucratic capacity to screen millions of immigrants using new systems. Says Krikorian: "That does not exist."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; nationalsecurity; openborders; usborders
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Poll with article [Right column]

What new steps should the US take to crack down on illegal immigration?

Follow-through on the Real ID act, creating a national identification system. 3.1%

Strengthen laws already in place by increasing arrests, prosecutions, and deportations. 12.6%

Toughen penalties for employers who hire illegals. 15.7%

All of the above. 68.5%

Total votes: 127

1 posted on 08/07/2005 11:35:29 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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DeLay criticizes Houston's policy on illegal immigrants***……..He encouraged local police to round up illegal immigrants, and promised that the federal government will find places to house them.

"If you pick up 50 or 100 of them, you can call the National Guard," he said. "Put them in tents."

He also said he did not support educating illegal immigrants or having their U.S.-born children become automatically U.S. citizens. But he said those would be harder to repeal.

DeLay also said he strongly supports legal immigration, which he says makes this country stronger. ….***

2 posted on 08/07/2005 11:39:45 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Bush Interview: "This should not be an amnesty program"

GOP courts consensus on border policy (There's a lot to chew on)

3 posted on 08/07/2005 11:41:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The idea would be "to make it as difficult and unpleasant as possible to live here illegally,"
4 posted on 08/07/2005 11:51:42 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The study calculates the costs of apprehension, detention, legal processing, and transportation to countries of origin. It assumes that 20 percent of illegal immigrants would leave voluntarily.

Given the horror stories that would arise from a forced exodus, it would soon be a political impossibility.

Ummm, yeah. How about trying a good faith effort to deport illegals from houses where they are packed like sardines (e.g. one in Paradise Valley, AZ, which held 27 people; or the one in New Jersey which held 40 people)? Or even the knots and groups of unemployed "day laborers" hanging around home-improvement stores?

Once we did that, the word would get out QUICK.

Our current policy is (to borrow a phrase from an old MAD magazine) "like trying to scare ants away from a picnic by pouring sugar on the ground."

No cheers, unfortunately.

5 posted on 08/07/2005 11:54:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
Crosslinked:

For "Thunder on the Border," click this picture:


6 posted on 08/08/2005 12:35:17 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Watch this issue as it evolves. It may be the horse on which the Democrats ride back into control of Congress and the White House. A substantial slice of the GOP base is so angry over illegal immigration that they may punish the GOP on the immigration issue, just as they did with Bush I's broken "no new taxes pledge."
7 posted on 08/08/2005 12:41:24 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Give me a break!

You think the Democrats are going to solve the immigration mess?

I guess the sun will set in the East.


8 posted on 08/08/2005 12:50:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: backhoe

Thanks for the LINKS backhoe!


9 posted on 08/08/2005 12:51:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When a slice of the GOP base gets in a punishing mood, they sit home or withhold their votes, as they did in 1990 when Bush I broke his pledge on taxes. Republicans across the country got clobbered in the election that year. Bush himself then lost his reelection effort in 1992, with more than a few Republicans still furious at his betrayal on taxes.

A five per cent decline in the GOP base vote in 2006 or 2008 due to illegal immigration would be damaging, while a ten per cent decline would probably shift power to the Democrats. Republicans deeply disaffected about illegal immigration would not be dissuaded by the prospect of the Democrats coming to power. Their reasoning would be that, as with the Republicans taking Congress in 1994, any losses could be recovered in an election cycle or two, but with the GOP leadership properly chastened.

One does not have to endorse this reasoning to recognize that it is out there and ought to be taken into account. Call me foolish if you wish, but some months ago Limbaugh issued the same warning on similar reasoning. My guess is that the Democrats will test illegal immigration in 2006 and will use it heavy and hard in 2008.
10 posted on 08/08/2005 1:26:20 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: grey_whiskers
e.g. one in Paradise Valley, AZ, which held 27 people; or the one in New Jersey which held 40 people)?

Or the one in Long Island, New York - 900 sq. ft. house with 60 people.

11 posted on 08/08/2005 1:51:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

12 posted on 08/08/2005 2:06:40 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Until and unless penelties against employers using illegals is enforced the problem will persist.
Also the feds should keep federal funds from all local and state govts that fail to go along with an assist program.


13 posted on 08/08/2005 3:06:45 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mexican border issues and illegal immigration should be a non-issue. Enforce the border, provide a legal mechanism to control the number and quality of immigrants. This is simply a civic obligation of the US government to its citizens and neighbors. To treat the issue in any other way is to somehow place Mexicans in a subordinant position relative to others that have legally established citizenship-in other words it is racist. It is denying qualified Mexicans the opportunity to become Americans, and provides an ongoing source of pseudo-slave labor.


14 posted on 08/08/2005 3:41:42 AM PDT by mo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...If Washington really wanted to, it could decidedly shrink the number of immigrants illegally crossing the borders and living in the United States: Just enforce the law....

Occam's Razor.

They simply have no interest of protecting what they plan to erase.


15 posted on 08/08/2005 5:03:35 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search CFR North American Community.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


16 posted on 08/08/2005 9:22:45 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


17 posted on 08/08/2005 9:25:23 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Americans would like Congress to tackle illegal immigration.

So far, so good.

"There does seem to be, post-9/11, greater resistance to immigration ILLEGAL ALIENS," says Ana Maria Arumi, research director for Public Agenda in New York.

Get it sraight, Ana.

18 posted on 08/08/2005 9:28:56 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: mo
To treat the issue in any other way is to somehow place Mexicans in a subordinant position relative to others that have legally established citizenship-in other words it is racist. It is denying qualified Mexicans the opportunity to become Americans, and provides an ongoing source of pseudo-slave labor.

Keep posting that until people start getting it.

19 posted on 08/08/2005 9:32:07 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We must replace the old 'nudge nudge, wink wink' system - overly strict laws that we can't, and in many cases don't even try to, uphold - with a new bargain: realistic laws, enforced to the letter," said Tamar Jacoby, a senior fellow with the Manhattan Institute

Translation: we must have amnesty and open borders.

20 posted on 08/08/2005 10:27:16 AM PDT by jordan8
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